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eightieth-first?

English translation: in the year nineteen hundred and eighty-one

14:28 May 30, 2004
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
English term or phrase: eightieth-first?
1981-describe it in words as you would in a law document.

Can we say ''eightieth-first''? How is it used in law documents when the year is described with words?
Lola
Selected answer:in the year nineteen hundred and eighty-one
Explanation:
This is the way it would appear in a (British) legal document.
Selected response from:

Julia Gal
Local time: 15:51
Grading comment
Ïuao so many different opinions. The power of speech. I like Julia's most-it feels as though this is the most suitable for a British legal doc(in my humble opinion).Çïwever I'd prefer if the word 'thousand' was there as well but I guess in English that's not the case!

Thank you all for your help.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +9nineteen eighty-one
Edith Kelly
4 +3nineteen hundred eighty-one
cmwilliams (X)
5 +2in the year nineteen hundred and eighty-one
Julia Gal
4 +2one thousand nine hundred and eighty-one
Rufino Pérez De La Sierra
5nineteen eighty-one: with or without "the year" in front
jebeen
4in the one thousand nine hudred eighty-first year
Gayle Wallimann
4in the year nineteen eighty-one/ nineteen eight-one
Ray Luo


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +9
nineteen eighty-one


Explanation:
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Edith Kelly
Switzerland
Local time: 15:51
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kim Metzger
1 min
  -> Thanks Kim.
agree  Monica Colangelo: Of course
1 min
  -> Thanks trixie
agree  Aisha Maniar
21 mins
agree  Vicky Papaprodromou
24 mins
agree  Julie Roy
40 mins
agree  Alfa Trans (X)
49 mins
agree  Rajan Chopra
1 hr
  -> Thanks all.
agree  Kirill Semenov
1 hr
agree  NancyLynn
3 days 9 hrs
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
one thousand nine hundred and eighty-one


Explanation:
That's how I use it.

In my opinion nineteen eighty-one sounds a bit too coloquial, and in legal documents you need to be more formal.

Cheers!

Rufino

Rufino Pérez De La Sierra
Canada
Local time: 10:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Kim Metzger: Good solution for Spanish. But that's not how it's done in English.
4 mins
agree  Marijke Singer: True legalese: on the seventh day of the tenth month in the year of our Lord one thousand nine hundred and eighty-one (http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/si81-125/part159422.html; http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/vitals/vandeusen.html)
7 mins
agree  danya: pure legalese
53 mins
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
nineteen hundred eighty-one


Explanation:
In a legal document I believe it would be written this way.

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Note added at 11 mins (2004-05-30 14:39:42 GMT)
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... with the federal community services block grant act of 1981, as amended ... proportion
of funds received in federal fiscal year nineteen hundred eighty-one by such ...
caselaw.findlaw.com/nycodes/c39/a13.html

cmwilliams (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ramesh Madhavan: I agree. In any legal document, the entire number has to be written in words. No short forms.
2 mins
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agree  pike
22 mins
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neutral  translatol: American nineteen hundred eighty-one, British nineteen hundred and eighty-one. The ordinal is eighty-first. In the year of our Lord, etc., is antique.
28 mins
  -> Yes, both are possible but we don't know whether the asker wants the American or British version.
agree  ohemulen
1 hr
  -> Thanks Kristina
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
in the one thousand nine hudred eighty-first year


Explanation:
This is the way to write it if you need to conserve the word "year" at the end of phrase. However, it is more usual to write it as Marijke suggested in her agree.


    Reference: http://www.journalism.cf.ac.uk/Student/sjold2/printable.html...
Gayle Wallimann
Local time: 15:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
in the year nineteen hundred and eighty-one


Explanation:
This is the way it would appear in a (British) legal document.

Julia Gal
Local time: 15:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Ïuao so many different opinions. The power of speech. I like Julia's most-it feels as though this is the most suitable for a British legal doc(in my humble opinion).Çïwever I'd prefer if the word 'thousand' was there as well but I guess in English that's not the case!

Thank you all for your help.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daphne Theodoraki: Yes, right as usual, Julia! See: www.scotland-legislation.hmso.gov.uk/legislation/ scotland/ssi2003/20030532.htm & www.abep.org.uk/documentos/MargarethMee.html (signed by both parties, identical copies in English and Portuguese)
1 hr
  -> Thanks Daphne :) Nice to see you're still here after all this time...
agree  NancyLynn
3 days 8 hrs
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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
nineteen eighty-one: with or without "the year" in front


Explanation:
**nineteen eighty-one will do.
**But depending on the context, "the year" in front could be used, if
only to put some kind of emphasis.
**nineteen eighty-first can also be used not to refer to the Year
itself, like this year is 2004; but in the context I mention below:
In (with or without:the year) nineteen eighty-one, there was a big
celebration for Mr. J's nineteen eighty-first birth anniversary.
Hope this helps.

jebeen
Local time: 09:51
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
in the year nineteen eighty-one/ nineteen eight-one


Explanation:
French Socialists in Power, Nineteen Eighty-One to Nineteen Eighty-Six: From Autogestion to Cohabitation

ISBN: 0-89133-098-4 / 0891330984
Title: Nineteen Eighty-One Supplement to Information: A Preservation Sourcebook
Author: National Trust for Historic Preservation Staff
Publisher: National Trust for Historic Preservation
Edition: Softcover

We worked with his mother BeBe until nineteen eighty-one, and then in nineteen
eighty-one she left and we took it over completely--just the two of us by ...


Ray Luo
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:51
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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