relating, but not limited, to: X, Y, Z

English translation: which shall include, but not be limited to

11:28 Mar 2, 2011
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
English term or phrase: relating, but not limited, to: X, Y, Z
Context:
This is listed as a responsibility for an employment position, but the text seems pretty bad.

"Employee must assist in resolving all technical questions, relating, but not limited, to: XYZ"

Is there a better way to put this? I guess so. But how?
zabrowa
Local time: 14:34
Selected answer:which shall include, but not be limited to
Explanation:

Employee must assist in resolving all technical questions, which shall include, but not be limited to, x, y and z.

Employee must assist in resolving all technical questions, which shall include, but not be limited to: x, y, z.

http://sameurl.com/G04SX


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Employee will assist in resolving all technical questions, which shall include, but not be limited to, those relating to XYZ.

Note the position of the comma - after 'to'.
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Peter Nicholson (X)
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Local time: 14:34
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4 +1which shall include, but not be limited to
Peter Nicholson (X)
4including, but no limited to: x, y, z
Martin Riordan
4especially those relating to XYZ, as well as other
Stephanie Ezrol


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relating, but not limited, to: x, y, z
including, but no limited to: x, y, z


Explanation:
The pair "relating" and "not limited to" don´t sit well together, to my ear, as they are two different concepts. "Including" and "not limited to" make more logical sense and are more commonly used together for this reason.

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What about "relating to x, y and z among other activities/areas/etc."


    Reference: http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/20/messages/319.htm...
Martin Riordan
Brazil
Local time: 09:34
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Notes to answerer
Asker: For sure... but the trouble is I have a hard time rewriting the entire sentence to reflect this. Any ideas?

Asker: ... the employee must address issues that relate to XYZ (but are not limited to XYZ exclusively).

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
relating, but not limited, to: x, y, z
which shall include, but not be limited to


Explanation:

Employee must assist in resolving all technical questions, which shall include, but not be limited to, x, y and z.

Employee must assist in resolving all technical questions, which shall include, but not be limited to: x, y, z.

http://sameurl.com/G04SX


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Employee will assist in resolving all technical questions, which shall include, but not be limited to, those relating to XYZ.

Note the position of the comma - after 'to'.


Peter Nicholson (X)
Poland
Local time: 14:34
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
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Notes to answerer
Asker: I think this leaves out an important aspect of the correction... so let me try to incorporate that here: "Employee will assist in resolving all technical questions which shall include, but not be limited, to those relating to XYZ" ... Is that not too verbose?


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agree  784512 (X): @Asker: It is more verbose than just "including, but not limited to", but it is better English.
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
relating, but not limited, to: x, y, z
especially those relating to XYZ, as well as other


Explanation:
This is a different less legalistic way of saying it which might be useful. My attempt here is to present this as it would tend to occur in certain work situations where an employee has one primary responsibility, but may be called upon to help with other technical problems.

Employee must assist in resolving all technical questions, especially those relating to XYZ, as well as other technical questions as necessary.

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 08:34
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20
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