preserving the old graces

English translation: keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them

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English term or phrase:preserving the old graces
Selected answer:keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them
Entered by: Yvonne Gallagher

22:36 Aug 21, 2019
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama / listening and comprehension
English term or phrase: preserving the old graces
I don't understand the meaning of this phrase. Could you, please, explain to me what does it mean?

Line: Well, not everyone would stand up against such enormous difficulties, preserving the old graces. Scotsman devoted to his family.

Link: https://youtu.be/B3tZdUKWHMM

Time: 10:30 until 10:36

Thanks!
Daniel Slon
keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them
Explanation:
preserving old courtesies

https://books.google.ie/books?id=kRpJDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT30&lpg=PT...

"The old manners, the old courtesy, the old graces that made life sweet. All is hurry and selfishness and thick skin..."
it's STAUNCHLY devoted to his family

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https://books.google.ie/books?id=nOAtpUTjewEC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA...

Things change almost yearly and the old graces are out of style, are changed, or even make room for the more recent fashions

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https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8538365-my-generation-of-ra...
“My generation of radicals and breakers-down never found anything to take the place of the old virtues of work and courage and the old graces of courtesy and ...

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NB not Scotsman but STAUNCHLY

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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/staunch

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Glad to have helped.
You noticed my comment about "staunchly" (not "Scotsman") I hope?
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 13:31
Grading comment
Thanks again for your help!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +3keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them
Yvonne Gallagher
4keeping the gracious manners
Ali Sharifi
4traditional values
Lara Barnett


  

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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
keeping the gracious manners


Explanation:
The polite and sweet behaviour pleasing to the addressee.

Ali Sharifi
United States
Local time: 08:31
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
traditional values


Explanation:
He is saying that in the face of such adversity, he still managed to keep hold of traditional values, morals or duties.

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And I would also say that there is a nuance by the use of the word "grace" (when so many other words could have been used), which suggests that, by managing to uphold these values amidst such difficulties, this guy has acquired a kind of elegance, charm or moral worth.

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You would say "preserving (or even "cherishing") traditional values

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...unti he almost has a kind of pious aura around him.

I.e. the nuanced use of this noun has an association of piousness.

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"At a time when SOCIAL VALUES AND GRACES are being re-examined and re-established, this trend embodies all that is traditional.".
https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/home/trendspotting-a-pa...

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My use of "values" can be explained through the expression "SOCIAL VALUES". This may explain the idea:

"SOCIAL VALUES are most important aspects of a social system, which play a predominant role in running and maintaining the social order. They provide not only the general guidelines for social conduct and behaviour, but also establish the norms in society."
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-social-value...

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The point with using the term "preserving/upholding traditional VALUES" is that it is strongly implied that the character/person in question has been carrying out his/her duties, tasks, lifelong efforts etc in a way that keeps sight of these traditions.

Lara Barnett
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: But it's not really about the values as such, but rather, the gracious manners that may or may not have gone with them.
8 hrs
  -> Yes, but I would say its about both, hence my comment about the character using the term "graces" rather than actually saying manners or values or whatever.// And using "preserving traditional" alongside "values" does not qualify it's meaning in any way?
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
keeping to old traditions (traditional ways of doing things, courtesy, manners) and preserving them


Explanation:
preserving old courtesies

https://books.google.ie/books?id=kRpJDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT30&lpg=PT...

"The old manners, the old courtesy, the old graces that made life sweet. All is hurry and selfishness and thick skin..."
it's STAUNCHLY devoted to his family

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Note added at 41 mins (2019-08-21 23:18:27 GMT)
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https://books.google.ie/books?id=nOAtpUTjewEC&pg=PA20&lpg=PA...

Things change almost yearly and the old graces are out of style, are changed, or even make room for the more recent fashions

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Note added at 42 mins (2019-08-21 23:19:39 GMT)
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https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8538365-my-generation-of-ra...
“My generation of radicals and breakers-down never found anything to take the place of the old virtues of work and courage and the old graces of courtesy and ...

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Note added at 43 mins (2019-08-21 23:20:21 GMT)
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NB not Scotsman but STAUNCHLY

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Note added at 44 mins (2019-08-21 23:21:22 GMT)
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/staunch

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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2019-08-23 11:00:09 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped.
You noticed my comment about "staunchly" (not "Scotsman") I hope?

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 13:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 84
Grading comment
Thanks again for your help!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M
8 hrs
  -> Many thanks:-)

agree  B D Finch
12 hrs
  -> Many thanks:-)

agree  writeaway
23 hrs
  -> Many thanks:-)
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