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BAP

English translation: A reference number

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English term or phrase:BAP
Selected answer:A reference number
Entered by: Milena Stankovska

10:34 Mar 2, 2011
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs
English term or phrase: BAP
I'm translating a Birth Certificate issued in the UK, in the top right corner there is an abbreviation BAP and a six digit number.
Can someone tell me what BAP stands for?
Thanks a million.
Milena Stankovska
North Macedonia
Local time: 14:17
A reference number
Explanation:
I got out all my family's (UK) birth certificates and had a look. They all have what I take to be a unique reference number of the format LL NNNNNN where L is a letter and N a number. The letters are in a more solid print and I take them to be the (meaningless) reference code of the book of certificates from which the particular certificate is taken, while the numbers are in lighter print and are, I assume, unique to that certificate.

All the certificates I've looked at only have two letters in this code, but possibly since then codes have been extended to 3 letters?
Selected response from:

Armorel Young
Local time: 13:17
Grading comment
I too believe it's a reference number.
Thank you again, I appreciate your effort :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
2 +2A reference number
Armorel Young
3Baptism
Joyce A
1baptised
Sarah Bessioud
Summary of reference entries provided
Support for idea of reference or serial number
Alison MacG

  

Answers


1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
bap
baptised


Explanation:
Bap is frequently used as an abbreviation for 'baptised'. This may be a possibility here, followed by the date. ie Bap 120889 - baptised on the 12th August 1989.

Sarah Bessioud
Germany
Local time: 14:17
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Sheila Wilson: Certainly Bap can be an abbreviation of baptised but I don't think it would be possible on a birth certificate. These are issued within a couple of days of the birth and anyway the baptism has nothing to do with the authorities
2 hrs
  -> I was considering the fact that this may have been added to the birth certificate at a later date, maybe even by hand
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
bap
Baptism


Explanation:
I found all sorts of meanings for BAP, but for birth certificates, it seems it can stand for "baptism" which takes place sometime after birth. I'm not 100% sure, but my answer is based on what I found below:

http://www.eatongenealogy.com/blackeaton10.html
All Chester BAP Records Now Searched .Marriage Cert States "Both Of This Parish", But HE Has Proved To Be From Staffs! Maybe she Likewise was not "O.T.P". Last Chance Saloon, Find her on 1841 Census!
GI Produced a J.B.,BAP. 08.07.1787, At Churh Eaton, Staffs, (On the Shropshire Union Canal) Which Is 25m from Cheadle. Also a Marriage for her Parents, Edward & Mary @ Church Eaton. All Docs filed in C71

Another Possibility is that she came from Halkyn or Northop, where there are many "Bagshaws" (I have a record of a Jane B. BAP Jul 10, 1789. A three year Discerepancy based on her stated age on her Death.

A further BAP found at Halkyn "10.07.1784 Jane Bagshaw John & Ann, Halkyn" a two year discrepancy. (No nearer matches found at Halkyn).

http://www.australianhistoryresearch.info/thomas-dargin/
1. Sophia DARGIN b. 17 Sep 1796, Hawkesbury NSW, Bap: 11 Aug 1805, St Johns Parramatta NSW, m. (1) 3 Aug 1812, in St Matthews Windsor NSW, Patrick BRADY, b. 1775, arrived 1802 Rolla d. 1835. Co-habited from approx. 1820 with Joseph WINIFRED, b. 1785, Middlesex England, arr Marquis of Wellington Convict 27 Jan 1815. d. 9 Jul 1872, Windsor NSW, buried: St Matthews Windsor NSW. Sophia died 7 Sep 1871, Orange NSW.
2. Mary DARGIN b. 23 Sep 1798, Hawkesbury NSW, Bap: 11 Aug 1805, St Johns Parramatta NSW, m. 26 Mar 1821, in St Matthews Windsor NSW, William LEE, b. 1 Apr 1794, Norfolk Island Australia, (son of James LEE and Sarah SMITH) occupation M.P. d. 18 Nov 1870, Claremont Kelso NSW, buried Lee Family Vault Kelso Churchyard NSW. Mary died 29 Aug 1886, Sydney NSW, buried: Lee Family Vault Kelso Churchyard NSW.




Joyce A
Thailand
Local time: 19:17
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Sheila Wilson: Certainly Bap can be an abbreviation of baptised but I don't think it would be possible on a birth certificate. These are issued within a couple of days of the birth and anyway the baptism has nothing to do with the authorities
2 hrs
  -> Hi Sheila. It seemed to be a good possibility to me, especially with the 6 figure number after it. Whatever the case, I'm sure it must have a meaning.
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +2
bap
A reference number


Explanation:
I got out all my family's (UK) birth certificates and had a look. They all have what I take to be a unique reference number of the format LL NNNNNN where L is a letter and N a number. The letters are in a more solid print and I take them to be the (meaningless) reference code of the book of certificates from which the particular certificate is taken, while the numbers are in lighter print and are, I assume, unique to that certificate.

All the certificates I've looked at only have two letters in this code, but possibly since then codes have been extended to 3 letters?

Armorel Young
Local time: 13:17
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
I too believe it's a reference number.
Thank you again, I appreciate your effort :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alison MacG: I think you are correct. I've posted a couple of references as possible support.
30 mins
  -> Thanks - your first reference in particular seems to bear out my theory
agree  Sheila Wilson: I've been waiting to be proved wrong but it hasn't happened. I'm sure now that this is all it is.
42 mins
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Reference comments


6 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Support for idea of reference or serial number

Reference information:
Where it is not possible to keep a copy of the original birth certificate or other evidence seen, please make sure you record the appropriate reference number on the original document in the space provided on the Parent/Carer Authorisation Form. The number to record from a birth certificate has two or three letters followed by six numbers and is already pre printed on the certificate.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zz10Hfp...

42/43. Birth certificate number
Please enter the printed, unique serial number (usually printed in red at the top or bottom of the form) of the certified copy of the registered birth entry and supply the date of completion by the registrar.
http://www.crufc.co.uk/attachments/388_CRB_Countersig_AppA4....

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thank you :)


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Veronika McLaren: many certificates have "reference" or file numbers...
50 mins
  -> Thanks, Veronika!
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