Wide leather citrus

English translation: thick skinned citrus

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English term or phrase:Wide leather citrus
Selected answer:thick skinned citrus
Entered by: Stephanie Ezrol

10:59 Nov 14, 2010
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Agriculture / Fruit and Veg
English term or phrase: Wide leather citrus
From a list of exotic fruits, exported/imported to/from China. I suspect this English version may have been a dodgy translation from Chinese or another language, so it could mean "thick skinned" if done with google translate or similar:

"Citrus, orange, Wide leather citrus, grape fruit"
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 06:59
thick skinned citrus
Explanation:
I think you are right. There are many thick skinned citrus, like naval oranges which are easier to eat and peel because of the thick skin, meyer lemons and others.

HERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES:

http://www.heirloomgardenexperts.com/articles/citrus_tree_ca...

Meyer Lemon
•Thick-skinned citrus fruit
•Very juicy and less acidic than standard lemons

Naval Orange
•Sweet, seedless fruit
•Best eating orange
Thick-skinned but easy to peel


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A BIT OF HISTORY, and another thick skinned citrus. citron.

Native to the hills of northeastern India, the lemon originated as a natural hybrid of citron (a primitive thick-skinned citrus) and sour orange. Cultivation spread to the Mediterranean in Roman times and to California with the Franciscan friars, though a real industry didn't emerge there until the 1890's.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03E4D8123BF...

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Thick skin is also needed for cooking when you want to use citrus peel, or citrus rind. HERE IS ONE COOKING REFERENCE:

This recipe is a wonderful way to use citrus peel.Any thick skinned citrus peel can be used,such as orange,grapefruit,lemon and lime.

1kg/2lb citrus peel cut into 5cm/2in strips

1kg /2lb preserving or granulated sugar

350ml/12fl oz water

http://tastesoflife.wordpress.com/2007/09/24/spain-for-a-lon...
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Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 00:59
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4 +1thick skinned citrus
Stephanie Ezrol
3loose-skin citrus
Gerard Burns Jr.
1pomelo
Sandra & Kenneth Grossman


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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
wide leather citrus
pomelo


Explanation:
The thick skinned citrus that comes to mind is called a pomelo.

I suppose your text should read: lemons, oranges, pomelos, grapefruit - all these being citrus fruit.

A stab in the dark, of course.

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Thick skin is not a desirable feature - pomelos are delicious and in demand despite (and not because) their very thick skin.
Grapefruit can be both thin-skinned and thick-skinned - like oranges.

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I don't think you can dry citrus fruit into "leather". Never heard of it.

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Please note that you have a list of different types of citrus fruit (orange, grapefruit) and not types of processing (such as: fresh, canned, pureed, leather, etc.).

Sandra & Kenneth Grossman
Israel
Local time: 07:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RomanianRomanian
Notes to answerer
Asker: They also have "grapefruit" in the same list... Most odd... I didn't think "thick skinned" was a desirable feature of fruit but hey! who knows?

Asker: I reckon they must mean "thick"...

Asker: Probably only if the fruit is used as "leather". Acc. to Wikipedia: Fruits can also be dried in puree form, as leather, or as a powder...

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
wide leather citrus
thick skinned citrus


Explanation:
I think you are right. There are many thick skinned citrus, like naval oranges which are easier to eat and peel because of the thick skin, meyer lemons and others.

HERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES:

http://www.heirloomgardenexperts.com/articles/citrus_tree_ca...

Meyer Lemon
•Thick-skinned citrus fruit
•Very juicy and less acidic than standard lemons

Naval Orange
•Sweet, seedless fruit
•Best eating orange
Thick-skinned but easy to peel


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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-11-14 13:40:27 GMT)
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A BIT OF HISTORY, and another thick skinned citrus. citron.

Native to the hills of northeastern India, the lemon originated as a natural hybrid of citron (a primitive thick-skinned citrus) and sour orange. Cultivation spread to the Mediterranean in Roman times and to California with the Franciscan friars, though a real industry didn't emerge there until the 1890's.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03E4D8123BF...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-11-14 13:43:02 GMT)
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Thick skin is also needed for cooking when you want to use citrus peel, or citrus rind. HERE IS ONE COOKING REFERENCE:

This recipe is a wonderful way to use citrus peel.Any thick skinned citrus peel can be used,such as orange,grapefruit,lemon and lime.

1kg/2lb citrus peel cut into 5cm/2in strips

1kg /2lb preserving or granulated sugar

350ml/12fl oz water

http://tastesoflife.wordpress.com/2007/09/24/spain-for-a-lon...

Stephanie Ezrol
United States
Local time: 00:59
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you to everybody:-)
Notes to answerer
Asker: This (French) client is notorious for his lack of rigour (he once asked me to translate a text from Italian, which I don't speak, alleging it was "more or less the same as Spanish") , so it's likely a mistake.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Catharine Cellier-Smart: this sounds likely. P.S. It's "navel" oranges due to the formation on their peel which resembles a human navel (I used to work for a fruit import company !)
1 hr
  -> Thanks Catherine, and thanks for the navel correction.
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
wide leather citrus
loose-skin citrus


Explanation:
Not certain, but here is my reasoning:
I find that "loose skin" is a normal differentiator for classes of fruit with the FAO (Food and Agriculture Organization), and the visual nature of Chinese characters (they started out as drawings of the item named) makes me think it might be hard to differentiate between wide and loose. Below is a list of fruits China does happen to export, and that may allow you to use the process of elimination.

"In 1999 China exported 176 thousand MT of citrus fruit valued at US$41.637 million. Among them, loose skin citrus (mandarin and tangerine) accounted for 91.70%, sweet orange 2.71%, pomelo 2.4%, lemon less than 0.1% and the others 3.16% (Fig 1). "

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P.S. I know in daily speech we don't speak of the "skin" of a fruit, but it is used in the trade.


    Reference: http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/x6732e/x6732e04.htm
Gerard Burns Jr.
United States
Local time: 23:59
Native speaker of: English
Notes to answerer
Asker: Unless it's a banana. Hmm... I'm still pondering this, I think they just mean thick skin (piel gruesa) because "piel" is both leather/skin in Spanish.

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