\'beyond the mountains\' (hence the term \'ultramontane\')

10:55 Jul 1, 2017
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Social Sciences - History / slabljenje liberalne buržoaske vlasti u devetnaestom veku
English term or phrase: \'beyond the mountains\' (hence the term \'ultramontane\')
And when governments found themselves confronting the rise of apparently irreconcilable forces in politics, their first instinct, more often then not, was to coerce. Bismarck, the master of manipulating the politics of a limited franchise, was at lost in the 1870s when facing what he regarded as an organized mass of Catolics owing loyalty to a reactionary Vatican 'beyond the mountains' (hence the term 'ultramontane') and declared anti-clerical war against them.



I know what is said, but I don't understand what is meant..
Danica Cvetković
Serbia
Local time: 10:28


Summary of answers provided
3 +1“sa one strane brda” (odatle termin ‘ultramontaine’)
milena beba
4sa one strane Alpa (odatle izraz "ultramontane")
Elio Verbanac


  

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“sa one strane brda” (odatle termin ‘ultramontaine’)


Explanation:
… vernost reakcionarnom Vatikanu “sa one strane brda” (odatle termin ‘ultramontaine’)

ultramontanizam (srednjov. lat.), shvatanje u rimokatoličkoj crkvi po kome je Rim, tj. papa, duhovno središte hrišćanske crkve i sveta uopšte. Naziv se koristio u prekoalpskim zemljama za papi veran katolicizam sa sedištem u Rimu, “s one strane brda” (ultra montes). Ultramontanisti, pobornici papinske vlasti u u XV. i XVI. veku

Ultramontanism, (from Medieval Latin ultramontanus, “beyond the mountains”), in Roman Catholicism, a strong emphasis on papal authority and on centralization of the church


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milena beba
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agree  Daryo
3 hrs
  -> Hvala!
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sa one strane Alpa (odatle izraz "ultramontane")


Explanation:
Planine se u ovom slučaju odnose Alpe, kao simbolu fizičke i kulturološke odijeljenosti od Rima, pa možda ne bi bilo loše ponuditi takav prijevod.

Elio Verbanac
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disagree  Daryo: Prva brda oko Rima su zapravo Apenini
3 hrs
  -> Koliko vidim, niti znate o čemu je riječ, niti ste konzultirali ikakav izvor: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ultramontanism

agree  Vojislava Jankovic (X)
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