counsels of God

Russian translation: наставления Бога

10:17 Oct 8, 2015
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English term or phrase: counsels of God
Jesus of Nazareth stands before the entire world and cries out, “I, even I, am the L ORD , and besides Me there is no savior” (Isa. 43:11). It matters little that the world covers its ears, rends it clothing, and gnashes its teeth. God settled the matter long ago in the eternal and secret counsels of God.
Yuri Smirnov
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Russian translation:наставления Бога
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http://bibleist.od.ua/articles/nastavleniya-boga-podrostkam/
"Наставления Бога подросткам..."

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4 +1вечный и тайный божественный совет (замысел)
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
3 +1проявления воли/премудрости Божией
Oleg Lozinskiy
4волеизъявления Бога
Alex Koudlai
3 +1наставления Бога
Natalia Volkova
3решения, постановления Бога
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secret counsels of god
Turdimurod Rakhmanov

  

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counsels of god
проявления воли/премудрости Божией


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Варианты: советы / судьбы / определенное / воля / предопределения / определения / изволение воли

Jeremiah 32:19 Great in counsel, and mighty in work: for thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men: to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings: <--> Великий в совете и сильный в делах, Которого очи отверсты на все пути сынов человеческих, чтобы воздавать каждому по путям его и по плодам дел его

Isaiah 28:29 This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working. <--> И это происходит от Господа Саваофа: дивны судьбы Его, велика премудрость Его!

Psalms 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations. <--> Cовет же Господень вовек пребывает, помышления сердца Его – в род и род

Proverbs 19:21 There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.<-->Много замыслов в сердце человека, но состоится только определенное Господом.

Hebrews 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath <--> Посему и Бог, желая преимущественнее показать наследникам обетования непреложность Своей воли, употребил в посредство клятву

Isaiah 25:1 O LORD, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth. <--> Господи! Ты Бог мой; превознесу Тебя, восхвалю имя Твое, ибо Ты совершил дивное; предопределения древние истинны, аминь.

Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. <--> Я воззвал орла от востока, из дальней страны, исполнителя определения Моего. Я сказал, и приведу это в исполнение; предначертал, и сделаю.

Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: <--> Сего, по определенному совету и предведению Божию преданного, вы взяли и, пригвоздив руками беззаконных, убили

Acts 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. <--> чтобы сделать то, чему быть предопределила рука Твоя и совет Твой.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: <--> В Нем мы и сделались наследниками, быв предназначены к тому по определению Совершающего все по изволению воли Своей,

Acts 20:27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. <--> ибо я не упускал возвещать вам всю волю Божию.

Jeremiah 49:20 Therefore hear the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Edom; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the inhabitants of Teman: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitations desolate with them. <--> Итак выслушайте определение Господа, какое Он поставил об Едоме, и намерения Его, какие Он имеет о жителях Фемана: истинно, самые малые из стад повлекут их и опустошат жилища их.

Jeremiah 50:45 Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them. <--> Итак выслушайте определение Господа, какое Он постановил о Вавилоне, и намерения Его, какие Он имеет о земле Халдейской: истинно, самые малые из стад повлекут их; истинно, он опустошит жилища их с ними.
http://www.bible-topics.com/Counsels-and-purposes-of-God-The...

Oleg Lozinskiy
Russian Federation
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counsels of god
волеизъявления Бога


Explanation:
в Вашем тексте - "в вечных и тайных Его волеизъявлениях"

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возможно лучше перевести: "вечных и сокровенных Его волеизъявлениях"

Alex Koudlai
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counsels of god
решения, постановления Бога


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В предыдущей книге я понял это значение так.

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Сравните:
http://azbyka.ru/predvechnyj-sovet-svyatoj-troicy.shtml
Предвечный совет Святой Троицы – безначальный, вневременный (происходящий до века, до времени – «пред» веком, «пред» временем) замысел Бога о сотворенном Им мире.

В общем это полный синоним eternal counsel of God, потому что Бог и есть Святая Троица.

Следовтаельно, наверное, возможен дословный перевод: предвечные советы Бога.


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counsels of god
вечный и тайный божественный совет (замысел)


Explanation:
Деян. 2:23; 4:28.
Сего, по определенному совету и предведению Божию преданного, вы взяли и, пригвоздив руками беззаконных, убили;
5. Людей, предопределенных для вечной жизни, Бог избрал во Христе для вечной славы прежде основания мира в соответствии со Своим вечным и неизменным намерением, тайным советом и благоволением воли Своей, вследствие Своей добровольной, неограниченной благодати и любви1, не рассматривая каких-либо качеств самого творения (человека) в качестве условия или причины, побуждающей Его к этому избранию2.
1. Рим.8:30; Еф.1:4-6,9; 2 Тим.1:9.
2. Рим.9:11-16; 11:5-6.
http://www.reformedreader.org/ccc/1689lbc/russian/1689rch03....
In that eternal state there were decisions that the God made called the Eternal Counsel. The reason they are called the Eternal Counsel is:

God's decisions are made in the eternal state, so there is never a time when His decisions are not made.
Things that happen in this physical universe, which is just temporary, do not effect God's decisions made in eternity.


Since this may be difficult to understand, let us examine a verse talking about the Eternal Counsel of God. In a Psalm of Moses, he says:

Before the mountains were brought forth,

Before You formed the earth and the world,

Even from everlasting to everlasting,

You are God. (Psalm 90:2)

Notice the verb tenses:

Before the mountains were brought forth,

Before You formed the earth and the world.

He uses the past tense. Before God did all of those, he says Even from everlasting to everlasting. He acknowledges that God exists outside of this temporary creation — outside of this earth and world.

Notice that He does not say You were God. Would that not be the normal grammatical sequence? (Even before You brought forth the mountain and even before You formed the earth and the world, You were God.) Maybe that would be the normal grammatical sequence, but that is not the way God exists. He says:

You are God

Showing:

God does not exist in time, and
God is not bound by time, because
God is eternal.

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http://rusbaptist.stunda.org/picirilli/04.htm вечный совет Бога

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Вечны


    Reference: http://www.reformedreader.org/ccc/1689lbc/russian/1689rch03....
Turdimurod Rakhmanov
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agree  Lozcharles (X): Counsel of God where his decisions are made
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counsels of god
наставления Бога


Explanation:
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http://bibleist.od.ua/articles/nastavleniya-boga-podrostkam/
"Наставления Бога подросткам..."

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Спасибо!

Natalia Volkova
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agree  Turdimurod Rakhmanov: Да, наставления Бога 100% если counsel of god отдельно а если secret counsel думаю по другому перевести лучше
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neutral  673286 (X): По-моему, это неверно. Речь идет о том, что все предопрелено Богом, в этом суть. И то, что Христос пришел на Землю и зявил я - Господь, я - единственный спаситель, это уже предопределил Бог.
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Reference: secret counsels of god

Reference information:
Божий замысел-secret counsels of god

Иов 15
8
“Do you hear the secret counsel of God,
And do you limit [the possession of] wisdom to yourself?
8 Разве подслушал ты Божий замысел?
Разве ты сам постиг мудрость?

Псалтирь 64
2 Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity
2 укрой меня от замысла коварных, от мятежа злодеев,

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