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Vitamin E-stripped soybean oil

French translation: huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E

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English term or phrase:Vitamin E-stripped soybean oil
French translation:huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E
Entered by: Bertrand Leduc

15:01 Dec 16, 2019
English to French translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical: Pharmaceuticals / Clinical trials
English term or phrase: Vitamin E-stripped soybean oil
Placebo utilisé dans un essai clinique
Merci
Lionel-N
Italy
Local time: 18:32
huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E
Explanation:
une traduction
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Bertrand Leduc
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:32
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Summary of answers provided
4huile de soja débarrassée de sa vitamine E
FX Fraipont (X)
4huile de soja exempte de vitamine E
Christine HOUDY
4Huile de soja purifiée/appauvrie en vitamine E
Drmanu49
5 -1Huile de soja appauvrie en vitamine E
Daryo
4 -1huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E
Bertrand Leduc


Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
vitamin e-stripped soybean oil
huile de soja débarrassée de sa vitamine E


Explanation:
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"Dietary oxidized frying oil enhances tissue alpha-tocopherol ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pubmed
by JF Liu - ‎1996 - ‎Cited by 63 - ‎Related articles
Two groups of male weanling Long-Evans rats were fed vitamin E-deficient diets containing either 15% OFO or 15% vitamin E-stripped fresh soybean oil ..."

soybean oil stripped of its vitamin E; Notice the hyphen "vitaminE-stripped"

FX Fraipont (X)
Belgium
Local time: 18:32
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 306

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: "débarrassée" doesn't sound right - wrong connotations. Nothing wrong with vitamin E so why would there be any need to "get rid of it"??? More likely implication: vitamin E is missing //Le brigand les a "débarrassé" de leurs possessions?
26 mins
  -> well soy oil is rich of vitamin E. Strip it of its E vitamin, you get the perfecct placebo...
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
vitamin e-stripped soybean oil
huile de soja exempte de vitamine E


Explanation:
ou sans vitamine E

Un placebo est un procédé ... Dans le domaine du médicament, un « placebo pur » est un traitement sans aucune substance active.


    https://feedtables.com/fr/content/huile-de-soja
Christine HOUDY
France
Local time: 18:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER
6 hrs
disagree  Drmanu49: Non exempte ne traduit pas stripped.
12 hrs
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
vitamin e-stripped soybean oil
huile de soja purifiée, sans vitamine E


Explanation:
une traduction

Bertrand Leduc
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 389

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Drmanu49: stripped n'est pas traduit Bertrand.
2 hrs
  -> ''purifiée'' et ''sans vitamine E'' impliquent un procédé d'élimination
disagree  Daryo: la vitamine E n'est pas "une impureté" - loin de là!!!
14 hrs
  -> Purifier = éliminer toute molécule indésirable. Dans le cas d'un placebo, la Vit E est ''indésirable''.
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
vitamin e-stripped soybean oil
Huile de soja purifiée/appauvrie en vitamine E


Explanation:
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Huile de soja purifiée/appauvri en vitamine E ?

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Tout dépend du contexte mais ici j'aurais tendance à dire Huile de soja purifiée/appauvri en vitamine E

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https://www.lanutrition.fr › les-news › la-vitamine-e-des-huiles-de-colza-so...
22 mai 2014 - La vitamine E des huiles de soja, maïs et colza (gamma-tocophérol) serait associée à une diminution de la fonction respiratoire, contrairement ...


Drmanu49
France
Local time: 10:51
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Spécialisé dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais, français
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 1642

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Note added at 18 heures (2019-12-17 09:54:06 GMT)
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J'ai remis ma dernière réponse puisque l'entrée initiale ne plaisait pas. C'est dommage que les pairs ne lisent pas jusqu'au bout la discussion.

Drmanu49
France
Local time: 18:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 1923

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Bertrand Leduc: ‘’Stripped’’, a fortiori dans le cas d’un placebo, signifie une élimination complète des molécules de vitamine E. ‘’Appauvrie’’ ne fait référence qu’à une diminution de la concentration en Vit E.
16 mins
  -> Je ne sais pas s'il est possible de l'éliminer complètement mais d'accord sur le fond Bertrand.
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
vitamin-E stripped soybean oil
Huile de soja appauvrie en vitamine E


Explanation:
Huile de soja appauvrie en vitamine E = l'huile est "appauvrie"

the few ghits with "vitamin-E stripped soybean oil" are all about studies on rats about the effects of deficiency in vitamin E (low content of vitamin E in soybean oil), so the appropriate adjective is "appauvri".

"vitamin-E stripped soybean oil" is given to control groups to compare with the effects of that diet with the "normal" soybean oil. In what is given to control groups vitamin E is missing NOT "taken away as noxious".

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/14391490_Dietary_Ox...

for more, search for "vitamin E-stripped soybean oil".

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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (

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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (

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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (

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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (%3C 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of ...

take note: LESS THAN 10 mg/kg total tocopherol -- not -- ZERO

as confirmed later:


[Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (

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Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (less than 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of ...

take note: LESS THAN 10 mg/kg total tocopherol -- not -- ZERO

(tocopherol = vitamin E)

as confirmed later:


[Analysis of the vitamin E-stripped soybean oil (less than 10 mg/kg total tocopherol) compared to regular soybean oil indicated substantial losses of] phylloquinone associated with the process of stripping vitamin E from the oil (10.1 vs. 179 μg/100 g oil for the stripped vs. regular soybean oil, respectively).

https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10...



Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:32
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Drmanu49: That is the last answer I gave.// If you can't make the difference between discussion and guesses you disappoint me. And in the course of dicussion it was my last suggestion not guess.
53 mins
  -> no, the way you presented it, it was part of a list of several guesses given as "explanation" for a wrong answer.
disagree  Bertrand Leduc: ‘’Stripped’’, a fortiori dans le cas d’un placebo, signifie une élimination complète des molécules de vitamine E. ‘’Appauvri’’ ne fait référence qu’à une diminution de la concentration en Vit E.
14 hrs
  -> "une élimination complète des molécules de vitamine E" = OUI théoriquement, peut-être, MAIS il y a souvent des "mais" ... process of stripping vitamin E from the oil (**10.1** vs. **179 μg/100 g oil** for the stripped vs. regular soybean oil, ...
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: exempte de vitamine E
6 days
agree  Germaine: Cf. discussion. Cohérent avec d'autres résultats de recherches. Ce que je ne comprends pas, c'est que d'une même personne, la même réponse de Drmanu mérite un Neutral, mais la tienne, un disagree... Et je ne parlerai pas du commentaire de Gilou.
6 days
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