details suppplied by or on behalf of the person...

French translation: détails mentionnés dans ce certificat sont ceux...

16:10 Nov 27, 2019

English to French translations [PRO]
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English term or phrase: details suppplied by or on behalf of the person...

This sentence is part of a longer one which is not clear to me though the words are not difficult.
'The personal details contained in this certificate are those supplied by or on behalf of the person to whom the certificate relates at the time of the application was made and that appear to match any conviction or other details linked to that identity.'
Thank you for your input if you can.
Nicole

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French translation:détails mentionnés dans ce certificat sont ceux...

Explanation:
Les détails personnels mentionnés dans ce certificat sont ceux qui ont été fournis par – ou au nom de – la personne à laquelle se réfère ledit certificat.

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détails mentionnés dans ce certificat sont ceux...

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Discussion entries: 11

Germaine

Canada

Mark, Nicole,

15:18 Nov 28, 2019

Oui, c'est possible (je n'avais pas noté l'en-tête de la question). Merci! Ça expliquerait le style de la phrase. Le cas échéant, il vaudrait peut-être mieux de se tenir au plus proche du texte original:
Les renseignements personnels qui figurent dans ce certificat sont ceux qui ont été fournis par la personne visée ou pour son compte au moment où la demande a été produite et qui semblent correspondre aux [condamnations] [antécédents judiciaires] ou autres renseignements se rattachant à cette identité.

nicole GELISTER

United Kingdom

ASKER

22:52 Nov 27, 2019

Hi Carol, indeed it should read 'at the time the application was made', sorry for the typo. And like Phil, I think the English is badly written myself that is why I am seeking the help of colleagues.

Mark Robertson

conviction

19:15 Nov 27, 2019

In the context of the source text, conviction means "condamnation" , "antécédents judiciaires".

Germaine

Canada

Nicole,

18:28 Nov 27, 2019

Je lis:
Les renseignements personnels qui figurent dans [ce] [le présent] certificat ont été fournis par la personne [visée] [concernée] ou pour son compte au moment de la demande et ils [semblent] [paraissent] correspondre aux [preuves] [assurances] ou autres renseignements se rattachant à son identité.

Notes:
EN Conviction (belief) > FR conviction > Vx. preuve matérielle; certitude de l'esprit fondée sur des preuves
EN Conviction (belief) > syn. FR assurance, opinion, preuve, témoignage
FR Assurance(s) > DR. garantie de vérité, quasi-certitude; affirmation propre à garantir quelque chose.

Charlotte Fleming

United Kingdom

16:48 Nov 27, 2019

Agree with Carol: the details were supplied by the person in question or by their agent/guardian/lawyer or someone else acting for them. This would happen if the person in question is under-age, illiterate or unable to speak the language, incapacitated in some way, or unable to attend for any reason.

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

but I do agree

16:43 Nov 27, 2019

the writing is not as good as it might be!

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

@ Phil

16:43 Nov 27, 2019

nevertheless, pretty straightforward compared to most legal documents, n'est-ce pas?

... the details were either supplied by the person themselves, or by somebody acting on their behalf ...

writeaway

I agree with Carole

16:43 Nov 27, 2019

The only thing wrong is that 'of'. Otherwise the English is straightforward legalese.

philgoddard

United States

16:36 Nov 27, 2019

I don't agree that the English is straightforward. It's so badly written that you have to read it three times before you can even begin to understand it.

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

"the time of the application was made"

16:24 Nov 27, 2019

should of course read "the time the application was made"

Carol Gullidge

United Kingdom

What are you looking for here?

16:23 Nov 27, 2019

... an explanation of the English (seems fairly straightforward)

or

a translation into French? If this is the case, then you need to Reverse the Pair

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détails mentionnés dans ce certificat sont ceux...

Explanation:
Les détails personnels mentionnés dans ce certificat sont ceux qui ont été fournis par – ou au nom de – la personne à laquelle se réfère ledit certificat.

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Asker: merci a toutes

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