dropout voltage

09:12 Apr 14, 2018 

Regarding google hits, please cf._

tension de décrochage About 935.000 results
'tension de décrochage' About 935.000 results
i.e. the 2nd operator ' is irrelevant, other than "
"tension de décrochage" About 5 results

Why that difference? Obviously du to wrong operator, see:
Search for an exact match
Put a word or phrase inside quotes. For example, "tallest building".
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Goggle results are also different if combined with other terms and/or from different languages and/or spelling
Examples:
"tension de décrochage" "drop-out voltage" About 7 results
"tension de décrochage" "dropout voltage" About 5 results

Anyway, each term has sufficient Ghits, and should be investigated consequently. That’s why I repeat my question: Do you agree to "tension de relâchement"? You both disagreed to "tension de déchet", but not to "tension de relâchement". A fair verdict would be "Neutral" acc. MHO.

20:22 Apr 13, 2018 

That's funny, I think the problem must be that you are using Google in German: when I search for that exact term, I get 118,000+ results!
On the first page, all of the results are more or less relevant, in various related contexts.
This compare favourably to the 40,000+ Ghits I find for 'tension de déchet' — a large enough difference to suggest that the former is at least slightly more widespread than the latter.
And only 16,000 Ghits for 'tension de relâchement' — again, a fairly reliable indication this probably isn't the most widespread term.

The problem is, 'tension de décrochage' historically has a meaning close to the usage here, whereas 'tension de déchet' is a more recent term, and also applies to other contexts — can you see there is a difference between referring to the PARALLEL input voltage (as in the context here) and the SERIES voltage drop, which is the primary meaning of 'tension de déchet', as indicated in the various refs. to do with regulators. In my view, that creates an ambiguity that would be undesirable in this specific context.

18:18 Apr 13, 2018 

I know this. But you will see from my references that "dropout" has different definitions for different applications and that my proposals are related to each of them. Obviously the term "tension de relâchement" fits the context while I could not confirm the term "tension de décrochage" you supports so much, what indeed relates to the relay release voltage.
On the other hand I have no answer to my question regarding the equivalency of "tension de relâchement" and "tension de décrochage" and/or dropout voltage.

Moreover, I do miss relevant references for "tension de décrochage"except for thé broken link to Tornatech.

15:58 Apr 13, 2018 

Theer is really no need to trouble poor Asker demanding unnecessary extra context — it is all there and well explained in the context given.
If the incoming voltage falls too far for too long, the motor controller deliberately 'drops out' (i.e. stops the motor) in order to avoid the motor's being damaged by prolonged running at under-voltage.
This is absolutely standard practice in electrical engineering.
It has nothing to do with other terms that might refer to a motor 'stalling' for example, as you seem to be seeking to suggest.

15:29 Apr 13, 2018 

Please check, what the "dropout voltage" refers to. It may mean that the motor relay have switched off the motor. But this contradicts the statement "Long duration voltage sags can cause heating in induction motors because of the increased current drawn by the motor". It may also mean that the motor is slipping or blocked due to low voltages at the terminals, if the resulting torque is below the mechanical resistance of the driven machine.

14:17 Apr 13, 2018 

"tension d'amorçage" is totally "wrong!

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tension d'amorçage
tension de rupture
tension disruptive
tension de claquage
tension de désamorçage
EN
breakdown tension
breakdown voltage
disruption voltage
disruptive voltage
dielectric breakdown voltage
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