Positivist fallacy

French translation: positivisme fallacieux

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English term or phrase:Positivist fallacy
French translation:positivisme fallacieux
Entered by: Geraldine Solignac

19:28 Aug 24, 2020
English to French translations [PRO]
Science - Anthropology
English term or phrase: Positivist fallacy
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Quelle est la traduction de "Positivist Fallacy"?
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Positivist Fallacy: the assumption, often implicit, that historical sources and archaeological remains document significant events of the past. The expression was coined by archaeologist Anthony Snodgrass.
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The Positivist Fallacy is a logical error, sometimes made by historians, when they confuse “what happened” with “that for which we have evidence”.
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Geraldine Solignac
France
Local time: 08:57
positivisme fallacieux
Explanation:
Il vaut mieux traduire par une traduction naturelle "positivisme fallacieux", plutôt qu'inventer une nouvelle notion à partir d'une notion déjà existante comme le sophisme (qui se rapporte plutôt à une autre tradition philosophique).

Fallacy est un classique en traduction. P. ex. an utopian fallacy = une utopie fallacieuse

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Note added at 3 days 11 mins (2020-08-27 19:40:10 GMT)
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Un autre exemple selon le même schéma de construction : a logical fallacy = une logique fallacieuse
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Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 08:57
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Merci
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Summary of answers provided
4le principe erroné du positivisme
Francois Boye
4l'illusion positiviste
Ava Wells-Quantrell
4positivisme fallacieux
Cyril Tollari
3Illusion positiviste
Emmanuella


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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
positivist fallacy
le principe erroné du positivisme


Explanation:
My take

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 03:57
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci, avez-vous des références en francais reprenant le concept en ces termes?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: That's a good description, but a French ref. or two would be useful to confirm that's what a French philospopher of science would call it.
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positivist fallacy
Illusion positiviste


Explanation:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41737739?seq=1

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Définition du terme illusion, cf.cnrtl

Emmanuella
Italy
Local time: 08:57
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Native speaker of: French
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: There's a difference between a fallacy and an illusion. The "positivist fallacy" is a critique of positivist epistemology, based on the ideas of Karl Popper.
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positivist fallacy
l'illusion positiviste


Explanation:
Bonsoir Geraldine,

Je vois un document intitulé « L'illusion positiviste » qui est clairement un document philosophique.

A mon avis, je dirais que la phrase suggérée serait « L'illusion positiviste ». Même la définition française de « illusion » me fait refléchir à ce concept particulier. Je l'ai postée ci-dessous.

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https://journals.openedition.org/vertigo/1555?gathStatIcon=t...

L’illusion positiviste
La connaissance scientifique, condition nécessaire et suffisante à une bonne gestion des zones côtières ?
Des connaissances scientifiques forcément lacunaires et controversées
Le manque de connaissances justifie l’inaction
La connaissance, enjeu stratégique et levier d’action
Gestion adaptative et « data-less management »


    Reference: http://publications.ut-capitole.fr/13840/1/En_quoi_le_positi...
Ava Wells-Quantrell
United States
Local time: 02:57
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: There's a difference between a fallacy and an illusion. Your reference doesn't actually refer to the "positivist fallacy", which is a critique based on the ideas of Karl Popper. // Non.
18 hrs
  -> Sinon, peut-être une sorte de sophisme?
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1 day 17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
positivist fallacy
positivisme fallacieux


Explanation:
Il vaut mieux traduire par une traduction naturelle "positivisme fallacieux", plutôt qu'inventer une nouvelle notion à partir d'une notion déjà existante comme le sophisme (qui se rapporte plutôt à une autre tradition philosophique).

Fallacy est un classique en traduction. P. ex. an utopian fallacy = une utopie fallacieuse

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Note added at 3 days 11 mins (2020-08-27 19:40:10 GMT)
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Un autre exemple selon le même schéma de construction : a logical fallacy = une logique fallacieuse


Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 08:57
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Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Merci
Notes to answerer
Asker: Merci pour vos précieux conseils

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