meituiltje

English translation: bud cluster

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Dutch term or phrase:meituiltje
English translation:bud cluster
Entered by: Johan Venter

20:09 Mar 19, 2009
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Botany / Cherry trees
Dutch term or phrase: meituiltje
A 'meituiltje' is a new shoot on a cherry tree with a few flower/blossom buds and a leave bud in the centre. Any idea if there is a term for this type of shoot in English?

http://www.houtwal.be/vakjargon/_vaktaal_index.htm

TIA
Johan Venter
Czech Republic
Local time: 08:15
bud cluster / tight cluster
Explanation:
Yes, I think bud cluster describes what is meant by meituiltje.
According to your source (houtwal.be) it is a short twig with flower bud clusters. However, it is also used to indicate simply a cluster of flower buds.

"Niet elke kersenboom vertakt even gemakkelijk. Om die bomen een handje te helpen worden ze ingekerfd. Dat gaat als volgt: op de harttak wordt met een zaagje een kerf gemaakt door de bast heen. Ongeveer een centimeter boven de knop. Als er geen bladknop is moet er een meituiltje (een cluster bloemknoppen) gebruikt worden. In het midden van een meituiltje zit ook altijd een bladknop. De knoppen van het meituiltje worden dan weggehaald tot de bladknop overblijft."

"Als het goed is komen er uit de overgebleven stomp een of meer nieuwe scheuten, hopelijk dunner dan de vorige, die het jaar daarop meituiltjes(=knoppen) krijgen en vervolgens weer het jaar daarop eindelijk vruchten (zie ook de foto hiernaast)."

http://www.wardoranje.luna.nl/nieuwsarchief.htm


I have found another option, though, in a page that describes stages in cherry blossom development:

"Bud Burst. Also called "Tight Cluster" the top of the bud has opened and the individual flower buds are visible.
Cherry fruit buds have multiple flowers."
http://web1.msue.msu.edu/fruit/tchrygrw.htm

Perhaps "tight cluster" is the term we are looking for, as the bud burst stage seems to occur in May.





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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-19 21:26:43 GMT)
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I wrote "flower bud clusters", but meituiltjes include buds for both flowers and leaves.
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Max Nuijens
Netherlands
Local time: 08:15
Grading comment
Thank you. Corymbs could also be correct, but I am not convinced (see my note at Keswick's answer). This is a safe answer at any rate.
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Summary of answers provided
3bud cluster / tight cluster
Max Nuijens
3Sprout
Dr Lofthouse
3corymbs
Keswick


Discussion entries: 3





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
bud cluster / tight cluster


Explanation:
Yes, I think bud cluster describes what is meant by meituiltje.
According to your source (houtwal.be) it is a short twig with flower bud clusters. However, it is also used to indicate simply a cluster of flower buds.

"Niet elke kersenboom vertakt even gemakkelijk. Om die bomen een handje te helpen worden ze ingekerfd. Dat gaat als volgt: op de harttak wordt met een zaagje een kerf gemaakt door de bast heen. Ongeveer een centimeter boven de knop. Als er geen bladknop is moet er een meituiltje (een cluster bloemknoppen) gebruikt worden. In het midden van een meituiltje zit ook altijd een bladknop. De knoppen van het meituiltje worden dan weggehaald tot de bladknop overblijft."

"Als het goed is komen er uit de overgebleven stomp een of meer nieuwe scheuten, hopelijk dunner dan de vorige, die het jaar daarop meituiltjes(=knoppen) krijgen en vervolgens weer het jaar daarop eindelijk vruchten (zie ook de foto hiernaast)."

http://www.wardoranje.luna.nl/nieuwsarchief.htm


I have found another option, though, in a page that describes stages in cherry blossom development:

"Bud Burst. Also called "Tight Cluster" the top of the bud has opened and the individual flower buds are visible.
Cherry fruit buds have multiple flowers."
http://web1.msue.msu.edu/fruit/tchrygrw.htm

Perhaps "tight cluster" is the term we are looking for, as the bud burst stage seems to occur in May.





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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-19 21:26:43 GMT)
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I wrote "flower bud clusters", but meituiltjes include buds for both flowers and leaves.

Max Nuijens
Netherlands
Local time: 08:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you. Corymbs could also be correct, but I am not convinced (see my note at Keswick's answer). This is a safe answer at any rate.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Sprout


Explanation:
Possibly - see picture of them (Ref#1) -
HOWEVER
new growth arising from the roots are called 'suckers' (Ref#2)




    Reference: http://www.kolumbus.fi/jkald/pages/i3.htm
    Reference: http://www.care-gardening.com/cherry-tree-blossom.html
Dr Lofthouse
France
Local time: 07:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
corymbs


Explanation:
I believe the correct word is corymbs, as this is the botanical term for 'tuiltje'

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Note added at 6 days (2009-03-26 08:48:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Hi Venter, thank you for your comment, but check Van Dale on the meaning of tuil, it says 'plantkunde: trosvormige bloeiwijze waarvan de onderste stelen langer dan de bovenste zijn, zodat de bloemen ongeveer op dezelfde hoogte staan (corymbus). I believe that it can be used to describe buds en flowers


    Reference: http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Prunus
Keswick
Spain
Local time: 08:15
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch, Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: I cannot be absolutely sure, but after checking a few references it seems to me that corymbs is only used when the buds have already opened. In this instance specific reference was made to buds (i.e. before they open), as was also stated in my question. Thank you for your assistance, it is greatly appreciated.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Max Nuijens: Here is a picture of the corymbs. Is this what you have in mind? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/corymbs
1 hr
  -> This may be a better picture, see http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stihl.co...
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