snak fra de varme lande

English translation: lame excuse

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Danish term or phrase:snak fra de varme lande
English translation:lame excuse
Entered by: Charles Ek

13:00 Dec 2, 2014
Danish to English translations [PRO]
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Danish term or phrase: snak fra de varme lande
I know it means something between nonsense and BS, I just need to know which end of that spectrum to favor. If you have a favored English idiom for this, all the better. (And an explanation of its origin that doesn't offend anyone would be interesting to have as well.)
Charles Ek
United States
Local time: 18:33
half-told story
Explanation:
It is not snak but song - en sang fra de varme lande. And it does not mean something between nonsense and bullshit, but some kind of explanation or lame excuse that is absolutely not the truth. I don't know about the origin of the saying.

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-12-02 14:38:53 GMT)
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Okay, Charles, but I just found 'something between nonsense and bullshit' to be a very broad definition compared to the one I offered as bullshit doesn't necessarily have to be evasive. It can also be a way of using boastful language etc.
Regarding the saying - a lot of sayings or idioms are misunderstood by speakers and there are plenty of examples of the results to be found on Google. But even if the source file says 'snak' it doesn't really matter as you can't translate this literally.
Now you force me to switch from my smartphone to pc to look it up in sheer stubborness in order to prove my case :-) You can look the saying up in:
http://ordnet.dk/ddo/ordbog?query=land
You will find the saying listed and explained in Den Danske Ordbog.

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-12-02 14:57:44 GMT)
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How about 'fanciful excuses' - or 'fanciful explanations'? Includes the bullshit aspect too :-)

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Note added at 12 days (2014-12-14 14:06:55 GMT) Post-grading
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Tak for point, Charles!
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Marianne Sorensen
Denmark
Local time: 01:33
Grading comment
Thanks again. I've chosen "lame excuse" as the best fit.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4half-told story
Marianne Sorensen
3a long rigmarole
Christine Andersen
2 +1song and dance
Norskpro
3that's a likely story
jolenton (X)
1blarney
Diarmuid Kennan


Discussion entries: 11





  

Answers


18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
blarney


Explanation:
Just thought I'd throw this into the mix:
http://goireland.about.com/od/historyculture/qt/irish_blarne...

Diarmuid Kennan
Ireland
Local time: 00:33
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Gotta love this phrase: "the ultimate weapon of massive distraction". :-) Thanks!

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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
a long rigmarole


Explanation:
Just another thought

A long, rambling story or statement: ‘she went into a long rigmarole about the different jobs she’d had’
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/rigmaro...

´The tale of the old iron pot´ was an expression my father (from Bristol) used in my now distant childhood, but I can´t find any examples of it in that sense, and have not heard it for a long time.

Christine Andersen
Denmark
Local time: 01:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 39
Notes to answerer
Asker: Another good possibility. Thanks!

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
song and dance


Explanation:
Just a suggestion, song being the common word. It is defined as "an interesting but highly implausible story; often told as an excuse".

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Note added at 1 day27 mins (2014-12-03 13:27:38 GMT)
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What about "a long song and a slow dance"? just to give it a bit more laadidaaadidaaa...

Norskpro
Norway
Local time: 01:33
Native speaker of: Native in NorwegianNorwegian
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: This is more than "just" a suggestion - it is a very good one. Thanks!


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8 hrs
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1 day 5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
that's a likely story


Explanation:
in my part of the world (Essex, London and the South East of England), this would be a good fit. I may receive some disagreement naturally. It is always said in a sarcastic and often sullen tone. Also, it is often shortened to "Likely story".
If you google you will find a plethora of contextual examples. Hope this is of help.


    Reference: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/A+likely+story
    Reference: http://www.ihbristol.com/english-phrases/example/2012-12-23
jolenton (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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46 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
snak fra de varme lande (sang fra de varme lande)
half-told story


Explanation:
It is not snak but song - en sang fra de varme lande. And it does not mean something between nonsense and bullshit, but some kind of explanation or lame excuse that is absolutely not the truth. I don't know about the origin of the saying.

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-12-02 14:38:53 GMT)
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Okay, Charles, but I just found 'something between nonsense and bullshit' to be a very broad definition compared to the one I offered as bullshit doesn't necessarily have to be evasive. It can also be a way of using boastful language etc.
Regarding the saying - a lot of sayings or idioms are misunderstood by speakers and there are plenty of examples of the results to be found on Google. But even if the source file says 'snak' it doesn't really matter as you can't translate this literally.
Now you force me to switch from my smartphone to pc to look it up in sheer stubborness in order to prove my case :-) You can look the saying up in:
http://ordnet.dk/ddo/ordbog?query=land
You will find the saying listed and explained in Den Danske Ordbog.

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-12-02 14:57:44 GMT)
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How about 'fanciful excuses' - or 'fanciful explanations'? Includes the bullshit aspect too :-)

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Note added at 12 days (2014-12-14 14:06:55 GMT) Post-grading
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Tak for point, Charles!

Marianne Sorensen
Denmark
Local time: 01:33
Works in field
Native speaker of: Danish
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
Thanks again. I've chosen "lame excuse" as the best fit.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks. I found several Google examples using "snak" in addition to my source file. You must have some different understanding of bullshit than I do. :-)

Asker: Thanks so much for your detailed answer. What would you think of "empty excuse"?

Asker: Now you've really given me something to consider. Thanks so much for all this.

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