tir de confiance

English translation: trust shot

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French term or phrase:tir de confiance
English translation:trust shot
Entered by: claude-andrew

08:52 Jan 23, 2020
French to English translations [PRO]
Military / Defense / Transcript of a talk by a national armed response officer
French term or phrase: tir de confiance
Cette épreuve porte un nom, cette épreuve porte un nom et cela s’appelle le **tir de confiance**.
Qu’est-ce que c’est que ça ?
Cette épreuve consiste à tirer à balle réelle avec un revolver 357 sur un camarade qui se trouve à une distance de 15 m. Ce tir s’effectue à bras franc, c’est-à-dire à une seule main et consiste à casser un petit plateau d’argile d’environ 15 cm de diamètre accroché sur un gilet pare-balle porté par un camarade.
C’est le prochain test !
J’ai rien dit !
C’est la raison pour laquelle nous avons également pour ce tir, pour ceux qui en auraient déjà entendu parler, il a deux noms : le premier nom, c’est le** tir de confiance** et le deuxième nom, c’est le tir plateau.
En fin de compte, cela fait allusion au petit plateau d’argile utilisé pour le balltrap que l’on accroche sur le gilet pare-balle.
claude-andrew
France
Local time: 23:33
trust shot
Explanation:
The Trust Shot (in Turkish "Güven Atışı") is a part of the MB's training program. It is exercised on the last month of the training and is to ensure that the soldiers can trust each other with their lives. The Trust Shot consists of two members of a squad standing next to paper target boards, while another member fires on the targets with a handgun while walking towards them from 15 m (49 ft) away. During the exercise, the men standing next to the targets are not allowed to move or wear body armor. They are one of the few special operations teams in the world to perform the trust shot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_Command_(Turkey...
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Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Local time: 23:33
Grading comment
Thanks Wendy
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1confidence shot/shooting test to prove confidence
Danielle Coleman
3 +1Nerves of Steel Shot
SafeTex
2 +2trust shot
Wendy Streitparth
Summary of reference entries provided
Supporting Wendy's answer
Alison MacG

Discussion entries: 2





  

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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
confidence shot/shooting test to prove confidence


Explanation:
This is to demonstrate both the confidence of the shooter in his training and the confidence of the person being shot at in his fellow trainee. See the attached tweets from a GIGN officer:
1/8 Un petit fil aujourd’hui pour parler du fameux tir de confiance pratiqué au #GIGN.2/8 Après 14 mois de formation, chacun, la veille de recevoir son brevet, passe une ultime épreuve : un tir sur un de ses camarades.
3/8 C'est un tir à 15m au revolver, arme utilisée à l'instruction, sur un pigeon d'argile, fixé sur le gilet pare-balles de la "cible"
4/8 Cet tir revêt une symbolique particulière, au-delà du geste technique, maîtrisé en fin de formation. Il illustre confiance :...
5/8 En soi : « j’ai reçu une formation qui me rend sûr de moi, sûr d’atteindre ma cible sans aucun doute. Je ne ferai pas échec ».
6/8 Confiance mutuelle : « Il a confiance en moi, il ne bougera pas, par peur ou mauvais réflexe, à la seconde où je ferai feu ».
7/8 Confiance mutuelle toujours : « j’ai confiance en celui qui me vise. Formé comme moi, il ne manquera pas sa cible ».
8/8 Enfin, mes anciens, déjà brevetés, avec lesquels je partirai en mission dès demain peuvent m’accorder désormais leur confiance.

The second link has 'confidence shoot', but personally I would avoid this.





    https://twitter.com/PLP178151/status/1006109485889474560
    https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/8r7c6m/a_gign_member_performing_le_tir_de_confiancethe/
Danielle Coleman
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Danielle, indeed it is the GIGN! See the YouTube I've posted.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  erwan-l: Bravo pour les références.
2 hrs
  -> Merci

neutral  Wendy Streitparth: Where are the English language links? Confidence shot When you need to boost your confidence for any reason, so you take a few shots of your alcohol of preference. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=confidence s...
2 hrs
  -> There are no English language links because an English translation has not been posted on the internet, as far as I know, except the 'confidence shoot' in the second link I posted, which, as I said, I would avoid. I thought the French tweets were helpful.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Nerves of Steel Shot


Explanation:
I could not find a common expression for this so if I had to translate it and invent a term myself, it might be this.

SafeTex
France
Local time: 23:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Good idea, says it all. Thanks!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Danielle Coleman: Nice phrase
35 mins
  -> I was going to say "shit yourself shot" but decided on this instead :)

neutral  Daryo: nicely said, but THAT do not really associate with "having faith in our future partner / team member"
1 day 7 hrs
  -> Unless you say that the bloke being shot at needs nerves of steel too :):):)
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +2
trust shot


Explanation:
The Trust Shot (in Turkish "Güven Atışı") is a part of the MB's training program. It is exercised on the last month of the training and is to ensure that the soldiers can trust each other with their lives. The Trust Shot consists of two members of a squad standing next to paper target boards, while another member fires on the targets with a handgun while walking towards them from 15 m (49 ft) away. During the exercise, the men standing next to the targets are not allowed to move or wear body armor. They are one of the few special operations teams in the world to perform the trust shot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_Command_(Turkey...

Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Local time: 23:33
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 39
Grading comment
Thanks Wendy

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alison MacG
19 hrs
  -> Many thanks, Alison

agree  Daryo: yes, that's the point: "trusting your future team member".
1 day 5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Daryo
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Reference comments


1 day 1 hr
Reference: Supporting Wendy's answer

Reference information:
From: The Elite: The A–Z of Modern Special Operations Forces By Leigh Neville

Unfortunately, despite what various stories on the internet would lead you to believe, the MR73 is today more of a symbolic trophy for recruits completing GIGN selection and for use during the famous confidence-building ritual known as the 'Trust Shot' to ensure complete mutual confidence in the new member. A GIGN member clad in body armour has a clay pigeon attached to his vest. The recruit fires his MR73, using full-power loads, to strike the clay without wounding his fellow operator.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LZO2DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA234&dq...

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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