prend cours

13:58 Jul 24, 2019 

Hello
At first, I thought that "runs for/from" was right but these do not really work here due to what follows.
Also, there is no time period - other than indefinitely - nor dates and so both these suggestions would be hard to implement.
So I've come round to thinking that FX fraipont is right, or at least has the translation that will work best.

This is why I don't like disagrees coming from others who have made a suggestion (unless something is blatantly wrong). It boils down to saying "I'm right and you are wrong" and skews the note system.

09:00 Jul 20, 2019 

Hello, quick comment on your statement:

Enter into basically means to sign, but it does not mean, in most cases, that an agreement immediately takes effect.

Actually, no. Entering into a contract = creating a binding legal obligation. In most cases it does occur on signing the contract document, or it can occur orally: if X makes an offer ("I'll pay you $5000 for your car"/"Would you sell me your car for $5000?") and Y accepts it, the contract exists. What happens later, namely X giving Y the $5000 and Y giving X the car, is called performance of the contract.

The confusing bit is that in the law, the "contract" is an abstraction: it's the binding legal obligation itself, not the piece of paper that it's usually expressed on. Entering into a contract is the same thing as creating a binding legal obligation, because that's literally what "contract" means.

The parties here seem to have agreed, somewhat unusually, that despite signing a piece of paper about a contract, no actual contract will exist until A actually receives (encaisser) the agreed-upon advance payment from B. But unless a written contract actually says something like that, normally signing = contract.

08:46 Jul 20, 2019 

Just to share some thoughts, this isn't a question of culture or dialect (e.g. FR vs. CA vs. BE usage). It's a legal question. Two different terms are used (prendre effet, prendre cours) because they mean different things legally:

1. Prendre effet: literally or in everyday language, "take effect," but in legal English it's "become effective." The time a contract becomes effective is the specific moment that a contract starts to exist as a binding legal obligation. That normally happens upon execution (signature), but here, the parties have agreed that it happens "le mois suivant l’encaissement par XXXX du montant de l’avance..."

2. Prendre cours: runs or begins to run. A contract "runs" over a period of time from X date or event to Y date or event. Y may be fixed in advance, so you know what date it ends ("terminates"), or not. In this contract Y isn't fixed.

If you're talking about the date it starts to run, you say "begins to run on X" or "runs from X." If you're talking about the period it runs for, then you wouldn't say begins but just "runs for Y months/years" or "runs for a fixed term of X" or "runs from X to Y" or, as here, runs for an indeterminate period.

02:02 Jul 19, 2019 

Apologies, should be French to English.

23:30 Jul 18, 2019 

My ref.: segment 293.