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observables

English translation: observables - observable items - observable elements

15:43 Apr 26, 2019
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / Piaget
Spanish term or phrase: observables
Así, por ejemplo las nociones de asimilación y acomodación solo son pensables una con relación a la otra (como ocurre con los esquemas y observables; esquemas presentativos y procedurales, sujeto y objeto) e involucra considerarlas en su unidad dinámica.

THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT WAS, LOGICALLY, "OBSERVABLES" BUT ALL THE HITS I GET FOR "PIAGET OBSERVABLES" ARE IN SPANISH--AND MOST SEEM TO USE "OBSERVABLES" AS AN ADJECTIVE, NOT AS A NOUN.

ANYONE FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH PIAGET TO KNOW WHAT THIS MIGHT BE?
Wendy Gosselin
Argentina
Local time: 12:40
English translation:observables - observable items - observable elements
Explanation:
I am not familiar with Piaget. He never invited me to breakfast, much less lunch o dinner.

However, we can observe.

http://blogs.unlp.edu.ar/psicologiagenetica/files/2015/08/No...

It seems like the adjective is being used as a noun.

The above link gives some clue.

Hope it helps to observe what is observable.



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Note added at 2 days 23 hrs (2019-04-29 14:56:42 GMT) Post-grading
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De nada, un placer. :-)
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JohnMcDove
United States
Local time: 08:40
Grading comment
Gracias
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4observables
philgoddard
3 +3observables (facts)/ observable facts
Helena Chavarria
3 +3observables - observable items - observable elements
JohnMcDove
3 +2observable phenomena
Robert Forstag
3 -1observations
Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
Summary of reference entries provided
(the) observables
Chema Nieto Castañón

  

Answers


57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
observable phenomena


Explanation:
There seem to be a lot of Ghits associated with Piaget for this phrase. Check them out for yourself.

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 11:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 120

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  JohnMcDove: Although I would have answered "observables" (using the proZ.com forbidden quotation marks), this answer seems valid to me as well...
13 mins
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
46 mins
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
observables


Explanation:
These are from English-language texts on Piaget:

"By repetitious interaction with our environment since birth we have learned that certain behaviors make for certain consequences and these consequences in turn are accompanied by **observables** which we either like or dislike. We then make the error of taking the **observables** and by generalization attaching a whole hierarchy of other events we like or dislike to them."
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1971/JASA9-71Clouse.html

Observables, Coordinations, Perturbations (Jean Piaget)
http://piagetmodeler.tumblr.com/

Those perturbations begin schemata reproduction... and schemata are built from observables, actions and goals.
http://books.google.com/books?id=JMuqCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA51&lpg=PA...






philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  JohnMcDove: Minute up, minute down. Great examples. :-)
5 mins
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
41 mins
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
3 hrs
agree  Chema Nieto Castañón
2 days 16 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
observables (facts)/ observable facts


Explanation:
Piaget defines 'observables' and 'co-ordinations' as follows: 'An "observable" is that which experience makes it possible to identify by an immediate reading of the given events themselves...'

https://books.google.es/books?id=ktcpkRn2HzsC&pg=PA169&lpg=P...

Children first read the observables with whatever 'tools of assimilation' they have available.

https://books.google.es/books?id=IozDfBUN39MC&pg=PT64&lpg=PT...

The following reference isn't available; I have only provided the text that appears on Google

happen". Piaget's genetic epistemology has the problem of change as .... between observables (facts) and coordinations (theories or schemes), although he

https://www.jstor.org/stable/20116671?seq=1#page_scan_tab_co...



Helena Chavarria
Spain
Local time: 17:40
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  JohnMcDove: Ditto. :-) /../ Don't worry. Your answer is excellent and the type of contribution that is really helpful. Have a great weekend!
5 mins
  -> I feel bad about not agreeing with your answer but apart from the fact I prefer 'observable facts', I spent a few minutes copying text from books in case the links I provided don't work. I hope you understand.
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
39 mins
  -> Thank you, Yvonne :-)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
3 hrs
  -> Thank you, Muriel :-)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
observations


Explanation:
Something seen and noted; data or information secured by observing: The student of a bird life kept a record of his observations.

Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
Mexico
Local time: 10:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: observation is not a synonym of "observable"
15 mins
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55 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
observables - observable items - observable elements


Explanation:
I am not familiar with Piaget. He never invited me to breakfast, much less lunch o dinner.

However, we can observe.

http://blogs.unlp.edu.ar/psicologiagenetica/files/2015/08/No...

It seems like the adjective is being used as a noun.

The above link gives some clue.

Hope it helps to observe what is observable.



--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 days 23 hrs (2019-04-29 14:56:42 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

De nada, un placer. :-)

JohnMcDove
United States
Local time: 08:40
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Gracias

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: You beat me to it, but I've left my answer as it contains more examples.
7 mins
  -> Thank you very much, Phil. :-)
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: yes, you got there first. And of course it can be used as a noun! (I never got invited to anything by Piaget either so don't feel left out :-)
48 mins
  -> Thank you very much, Yvonne. :-) Well observed. I feel much better now... ;-)
agree  neilmac
14 hrs
  -> Thank you very much, Neilmac. :-)
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Reference comments


2 days 17 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: (the) observables

Reference information:
English literature on Piaget use "observables" as a noun.

The observables must therefore be defined by what the subject believes he perceives and not simply what is percievable.
https://books.google.es/books?id=ktcpkRn2HzsC&pg=PA169&lpg=P...

a balance not only between the subject and the object but also between the observables and the coordinations.
https://books.google.es/books?id=IozDfBUN39MC&pg=PT253&lpg=P...

occurs when the coordinations of one level become treated as the observables of the next.
https://books.google.es/books?id=7WgCnXmdX1MC&pg=PA296&lpg=P...

Chema Nieto Castañón
Spain
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 19

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  JohnMcDove: Buenas referencias. :-)
5 hrs
  -> Gracias, John ;)
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