Thank you for your implication

11:05 Jun 30, 2019 

I'm sorry, I don't recall posting this, or closing it. A couple of months have passed and there has been a lot of water - and text - under the bridge since then. However, I'm reopening it to award the kudoz, as I see the discussion and comments were really helpful.

21:02 Apr 18, 2019 

Care to tell us why"no acceptable answer"? You are not required to select the answer you intend to use, only "the most helpful answer" (cf. KudoZ suggestions).

17:14 Apr 16, 2019 

Yvonne, what I meant to say was that while I can't make him reopen the question, I would definitely support it. People in DE-EN do it all the time, as long as no one was awarded any points.

Your answer also includes a crucial tidbit (titbit in Ireland, I guess) of information: A link to your Google search.

Like mine, and this is my question to you Neil, it shows a maximum of 98 results.

What search engine did you use to get to "thousands of examples of this usage"?

I hope you didn't rely on that wildly inaccurate number at the top of the first page. Google itself says you shouldn't trust it: https://support.google.com/gsa/answer/2672285?hl=en

And there's no reason to, e.g.: https://searchengineland.com/why-google-cant-count-results-p...

The BNC and COCA could be something for you:
https://www.english-corpora.org/bnc
https://www.english-corpora.org/coca

Or major news outlets, GoogleBooks, etc.

Or add site:gov / site:gov.uk / site:uk to your query.

The number at the top, however, is pretty much meaningless. And considering how much data Google has to index these days, many pages are not readily accessible.

Best

13:49 Apr 15, 2019 

@ Charles

Thanks for pointing that out. Also mentioned in the Dbox

13:47 Apr 15, 2019 

@ Neil
Just closed? No acceptable answer? And the actual question was answered too: "I'm wondering if it has become acceptable to use "implication" in the sense of Spanish "implicación", which usually translates as "involvement", or if it it still the false friend I always held it to be."

13:46 Apr 15, 2019 

You have an answer that says "(thank you for) your input", which is apparently what the client wanted to say.

13:33 Apr 15, 2019 

Nevertheless, I'd like to thank everyone for their contribution to the discussion here. I really appreciate it.

13:32 Apr 15, 2019 

... finally got back to me today, saying that he had simply copied the phrase from other reviews he had seen. He imagined it would mean "thanks for your contribution/input". So I'm revising it accordingly.

11:05 Apr 13, 2019 

Exactly! That's my reaction (though I wouldn't go as far as to act on it).

11:02 Apr 13, 2019 

As for the "thank you for not smoking" notices, they are supposed to work by sublimally telling/getting people to do the right thing:-)) Of course it could have the reverse effect! Someone who had no intention of smoking might say: Sod it! They're not going to tell me what to do!!

10:58 Apr 13, 2019 

Agree Charles that "in advance" can be added. Definitely not "implication" or "participation" here. And "input" or indeed "consider(ation)" much better than "involvement"

10:52 Apr 13, 2019 

In any case, "implication" is obviously out of the question, and I still don't like "involvement" or "participation".

10:47 Apr 13, 2019 

Yes, fair enough; I'd lost sight of the context. This is evidently a "thank you in advance", and indeed you might actually include "in advance", since the editor hasn't actually done anything yet (thanking people for something you are hoping they will or won't do, rather than saying "Please do/don't", seems presumptuous to me; I dislike those "thank you for not smoking" notices you often see: how do you know whether I'm going to smoke or not?)

Anyway, "implicación" is a bit strange here, really. The logical thing to say in this situation would be something like "Thank you (in advance) for your consideration". Or if you like, "for taking the time to consider...", or even just "for your time", or indeed "input", as you suggested. But I quite like "consideration" (considering my article for publication and being considerate).

10:33 Apr 13, 2019 

@ Charles that seems to be a bit informal here and I'd only say it after the fact anyway? Here he's writing "trying to get an article published" (so "helpful" probably isn't the right word) so he's hoping his article is read and accepted and doesn't go straight in the bin. "Thank you for taking the time..." is ubiquitous in this type of context these days

08:03 Apr 13, 2019 

You might end up putting something like "Thank you for being so helpful".

17:41 Apr 12, 2019 

Yes, that's the sense of it, I think.

17:38 Apr 12, 2019 

in this case the writer might actually want to say "Thanks for taking the time (to read my work/give feedback etc.)"

17:32 Apr 12, 2019 

@ Charles

I agree "Thank you for your involvement" is rather perfunctory and would make me think the person was passively/minimally involved whereas "thanks for getting involved" means they put more effort into their participation. But "getting involved" can be a bit negative as well if someone is being a nosy parker and/or sticking their oar in where it's not wanted...

17:23 Apr 12, 2019 

I'm taking it for granted that the Spanish-speaking writer of this letter was trying to say "Gracias por su implicación".

17:22 Apr 12, 2019 

It's kind of the difference between being involved and getting involved. "Involvement" is relatively passive; you did what you were supposed to do, you answered the questions put to you, etc. But "implicación" implies something above and beyond the call of duty: making useful suggestions, showing that you cared about the outcome.

Actually "Thank you for your involvement" doesn't sound altogether natural to me, and if someone wrote it to me I would think it sounded a tad perfunctory.

17:14 Apr 12, 2019 

Definitely and straightforwardly a false cognate.

But to me (treating it now as a SP-EN rather than an EN-EN question) I wouldn't say that "implicación" really means involvement or participation. "Thank you for your involvement/participation" means thank you for doing what you did. But "gracias por su implicación" means more than that; it means thank you for your attitude and approach, for getting proactively involved. It means something like "engagement" or "commitment".

17:00 Apr 12, 2019 

After almost 3 decades living and working in Spain, this kind of thing can sometimes slip under the radar. Thanks for the comments so far :-)

16:57 Apr 12, 2019 

As someone who has no (literally, zero!) understanding of Spanish, and is consequently immune to any kind of "contagion" on that level, "thank you for your implication" does sound really quite strange to me - but I'd be interested to see if others think the same!

16:57 Apr 12, 2019 

FWIW, I have never ever come across this phrase in English. Involvement or participation would be my take.