Bildgedicht

English translation: visual poem

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German term or phrase:Bildgedicht
English translation:visual poem
Entered by: Stephen Old

17:08 Jan 15, 2019
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Poetry
German term or phrase: Bildgedicht
Another term from my text on poetry in and after the Imagist period. Does this simply mean an imagist poem or just a poem relying on imagery for its effect?

The full context is: Als eine "spätere Formel" des "objective correlative" bezeichnet Armin Paul Frank den Leitsatz "no ideas but in things" von William Carlos Williams,1) der den Imagisten anfangs lose zugehörte, sich später jedoch der "objectivist poetry" zuwandte, da er ihre "Image"-Gestaltung, die das Bild strukturell nicht zum selbständigen Bildgedicht werden läßt, für unzureichend hielt.
Stephen Old
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:42
visual poem
Explanation:
See my reference post.
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Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:42
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Thanks for your help again, Helen. I think this broad, general term fits the context of my translation
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4visual poem
Helen Shiner
4image poem
philgoddard
5 -1picture poem
Cillie Swart
4pattern poem
Michael Martin, MA
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Imagist poem
Helen Shiner

  

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visual poem


Explanation:
See my reference post.

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:42
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Native speaker of: English
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Thanks for your help again, Helen. I think this broad, general term fits the context of my translation
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
image poem


Explanation:
A literal translation works fine. "Imagist" would be wrong in my opinion, since it implies that the poet subscribes to a particular set of tenets. I could write an image poem, but that doesn't make me an imagist.

"An image poem is a poetic form that uses descriptions of visual images to demonstrate a subject or emotion."
http://penandthepad.com/write-image-poem-5032777.html

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I also agree with Helen's suggestions of "picture poem" and "visual poem".

philgoddard
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picture poem


Explanation:
the aliteration is important to maintain


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Cillie Swart
South Africa
Local time: 03:42
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

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disagree  Lancashireman: Not a comic strip
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2 days 11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
pattern poem


Explanation:
https://books.google.com/books?id=sZuapP7MskgC&pg=PA142&lpg=...

https://books.google.com/books?id=sZuapP7MskgC&pg=PA142&lpg=...


Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 21:42
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Reference comments


15 mins
Reference: Imagist poem

Reference information:
"An Imagist poem is not just a picture poem." https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PpGBuOOQyPgC&pg=PA374&dq...

This discussion may help you.

The term 'visual poem' has several applications: it can mean examples like Apollinaire's Caligrammes, in which an image is created by means of typography, or, more simply, one that evokes an image in the reader's mind, and anything in between. I would suggest you consider that.

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A visual poem may be defined simply as a poem composed or designed to be
consciously seen. The modern visual poem is generally composed with
disassembled language material. This stuff of language includes word, text,
note, code, petroglyph, letter, phonic character, type, cipher, symbol,
pictograph, sentence, number, hieroglyph, rhythm, iconograph, grammar,
cluster, stroke, ideogram, density, pattern, diagram, logogram, accent, line,
color, measure, etc. Today’s minimalist visual poet, or the post World War Two
term, concrete poet, generally composes with fissioned language material to
create new and free particles, and/or sonic patterns, clusters, densities,
and/or textures. The visual poet composes with these freed particles and
generally weds or fuses them to one or more art forms. By doing so, by crossing
art form boundaries, the visual poet composes in a field of multimedia or
borderblur or intermedia. http://www.logolalia.com/minimalistconcretepoetry/archives/k...

Helen Shiner
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Native speaker of: English
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