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da lui descritta e messa in opera

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Italian term or phrase:da lui descritta e messa in opera
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Entered by: Lara Barnett

12:26 Nov 3, 2018
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters / Description of book
Italian term or phrase: da lui descritta e messa in opera
The previous sentence has described how the author was probably aware of how strong and bombastic this book was for the period it was written, and then:

"Allo stesso tempo, però, forse, egli stesso, non sapeva di aver creato una cosa ancor più forte e trasversale della stessa storia, da lui descritta e messa in opera nel libro"

I get the gist, but I am not sure how this fits in to the previous phrases, unless it is just a rather repetitive style of talking. It seems to say the author created this book, but then goes on to repeat the same thing again in different words, i.e. "described and produced by him"? Or have I misunderstood?
Lara Barnett
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:54
[suggestion for the whole sentence]
Explanation:
At the same time, perhaps he did not realise that he had written a book even more powerful and universal than the story it tells.
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philgoddard
United States
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1his narrative/story and the publishing of the book/work (adapt it-see below)
Lisa Jane
4 +1[suggestion for the whole sentence]
philgoddard
3put in place and described by him
Massimiliano Pacini


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
his narrative/story and the publishing of the book/work (adapt it-see below)


Explanation:
Hi

I would keep what you wrote adapting it like this:

However, perhaps he didn't realize, at that time, that his narrative and the publishing of the book/work would have created something even more powerful and more far-reaching than the story itself.

I think far-reaching is what is meant by trasversale here


Lisa Jane
Italy
Local time: 14:54
Meets criteria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 496

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Linda Thody: nice!
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Linda!
neutral  philgoddard: It doesn't say anything about publishing as far as I can see, and you're effectively saying " the narrative is more powerful than the story", which doesn't make sense to me.
19 hrs
  -> Publishing could be omitted or replaced by 'included in the book' and I think Lara used 'narrative' to avoid the repetition of story.
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
put in place and described by him


Explanation:
'da lui descritta e messa in opera' refers to the story of the book. This concept is repeated as opposed to an inspected and greater message contained in it that not even the author initially expected to provide.

Massimiliano Pacini
Italy
Local time: 14:54
Does not meet criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 4
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
[suggestion for the whole sentence]


Explanation:
At the same time, perhaps he did not realise that he had written a book even more powerful and universal than the story it tells.

philgoddard
United States
Meets criteria
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 186

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Josephine Cassar: What a perfect turning, you have a knack for these, well done
22 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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