points retenus

English translation: Points Earned

16:16 Aug 31, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy / ACADEMIC RECORD
French term or phrase: points retenus
This is a French grade sheet for a technological baccalaureat

The headings are as follows:
ÉPREUVES 1e GROUPE DISCIPLINES 2e GROUPE
points/20 OBTAINED en ACA points 2e groupe points 1e groupe *points retenus*

I dont think this can be transated as grades/marks retained as it does not seem to make sense.
It does not make it any easier that the columns entitled points 2e groupe points 1e groupe *points retenus*
are empty (no grades are recorded in these columns)

Your help would be very welcome!
Cassandra Delacote
France
Local time: 15:04
English translation:Points Earned
Explanation:
That's how I interpret it.

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Note added at 44 mins (2018-08-31 17:01:03 GMT)
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I think "marks" would be more like the letter grades we have in the United States (i.e., A, B, C, D, F).
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Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 09:04
Grading comment
Thank you for this answer which I used in the translation.
However, I could really have given points to everyone, as all the suggestions seemed good to me, and I especially want to thank Daryo for his explanations and research. However, I feel that points earned does actually convey the meaning of "retained points", points taken into account" as well as "points carried over", because to be taken into account or carried over, they had to be earned. I just find that this translation is concise, and sounds good in French. Not to mention the formatting problems with grade sheets, that make it so much easier to use the more concise translation!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4points carried over
Jennifer White
3 -1Points Earned
Barbara Cochran, MFA
Summary of reference entries provided
Comment calculer ses points pour le BAC
Daryo

Discussion entries: 11





  

Answers


10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Points Earned


Explanation:
That's how I interpret it.

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Note added at 44 mins (2018-08-31 17:01:03 GMT)
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I think "marks" would be more like the letter grades we have in the United States (i.e., A, B, C, D, F).

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 09:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 27
Grading comment
Thank you for this answer which I used in the translation.
However, I could really have given points to everyone, as all the suggestions seemed good to me, and I especially want to thank Daryo for his explanations and research. However, I feel that points earned does actually convey the meaning of "retained points", points taken into account" as well as "points carried over", because to be taken into account or carried over, they had to be earned. I just find that this translation is concise, and sounds good in French. Not to mention the formatting problems with grade sheets, that make it so much easier to use the more concise translation!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you very much for this answer. However, I have translated "points" marks throughout the rest of the Academic Record. I know that marks earned does not sound so good. What do you think?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Thomas Miles: To avoid 'earned' you could use 'awarded', but I have not studied the question in detail.
1 hr

disagree  Daryo: you don't need to "interpret" (=have a guess) - nowadays almost all the info you need is available online - obtainable most of the time in few minutes, if not seconds.
5 hrs
  -> Certainly wasn't a guess. I have attended and completed courses at something like 10 or more colleges and universities.

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: You are right about points. It is not "marks". Marks are calculated out of 20 (note /20") and the "grade" is the "mention". See my discussion post.
18 hrs
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1 day 21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
points carried over


Explanation:
See discussion. This was a simple phrase. Phil answered it straight away in the D box. I didn't realise that it would entail so much info and discussion about the bac. As Dario says, there are many references to its organisation so no need to give more.

Jennifer White
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  katsy
1 min
  -> Thanks!

agree  Victoria Britten
3 mins
  -> Thanks!

agree  writeaway: oh well, it's here for others who many need the translation sometime in the future.
22 mins
  -> Thanks!/Yes, indeed!

agree  Lara Barnett
1644 days
  -> Well, thanks Lara! good that we're both still around!!
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Reference comments


6 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Comment calculer ses points pour le BAC

Reference information:
general view:
https://www.admis-examen.fr/bac/calculer-ses-points-au-bac/


Matières enseignées et coefficients :
Examens en fin de Première :
Oral de Français (Coefficient 2), Français Ecrit (Coefficient 2), TPE (Coefficient 2 : Seuls les points supérieurs à la moyenne sont retenus et multipliés par 2.).
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Épreuves facultatives : deux au maximum pour le plaisir ;)
Seuls les points excédant 10 sont retenus et, pour la première ou la seule épreuve facultative à laquelle le candidat choisit de s'inscrire, ces points sont multipliés par 2. Si cette première épreuve concerne le latin ou le grec, les points sont multipliés par 3.
http://etudiant.aujourdhui.fr/etudiant/info/bac-s.html

Notes:
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(5) Seuls les points supérieurs à la moyenne sont retenus et multipliés par 2.
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(7) Seuls les points excédant 10 sont retenus et, pour la première ou la seule épreuve facultative à laquelle le candidat choisit de s'inscrire, ces points sont multipliés par 2. Si cette première épreuve concerne le latin ou le grec, les points sont multipliés par 3.

https://www.letudiant.fr/bac/bac-s/bac-epreuves-et-programme...

but you also need a global view of the whole "Baccalauréat" system:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baccalauréat_en_France


the concept of "points retenus" applies ONLY to optional subjects - i.e. if you get a mark below the average mark (that is also a threshold for a "pass" mark / les points en dessous de 10) that mark (that is expressed in "points" between 0 and 20 ) is disregarded - won't drag your average mark down.

With optional subjects ONLY marks that help improve your overall average mark "sont retenus" = are taken into account (or whatever other term meaning the opposite of discarded/disregarded)

Daryo
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 31

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Note that the English reference is not crystal clear on "points" and "note /20".
12 hrs
  -> what about RealWord 1.0? + I did check far more than you see in this refs, the Bac didn't change that much sioncs I got le Bac C few years ago ...
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