dover essere

English translation: ought-to-be

18:42 Feb 17, 2018
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Religion / canon law
Italian term or phrase: dover essere
It is used as a noun. This comes in a book on the essence of marriage in the thought of a canonist.

Examples:

"Quindi, l’ordine formale del dover essere del matrimonio [01]in facto esse [02]non viene pienamente fondato nella sua stessa essenza, ma trova giustificazione solo attraverso le categorie tecnico-giuridiche dell’atto negoziale."

"Il dover essere non si comprende solo come un imperativo alla realizzazione di atti procreativi come sembra dedursi da una sua semplice definizione, ma l’ordinazione giuridica essenziale ha questi caratteri di causa finale e di ragione d’ordinazione, che terminano per confluire su tutta la realtà matrimoniale"

It seems to be "the way marriage should be". I'm translating it for now as the 'must-be' with quotation marks.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Peter
Peter Waymel
Italy
Local time: 23:14
English translation:ought-to-be
Explanation:
Another possibility.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legge_di_Hume

La legge di Hume (anche detta problema dell'essere e del dover essere, in inglese Is–ought problem) ....
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Patrick Hopkins
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Local time: 23:14
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1ought-to-be
Patrick Hopkins
4the necessary coming to be
Lisa Jane
3of what must take place in a marriage
Barbara Cochran, MFA
2the very existence
Shabelula
2essence / quintessence
Wendy Streitparth


  

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of what must take place in a marriage


Explanation:
Might be this.

Barbara Cochran, MFA
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ought-to-be


Explanation:
Another possibility.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legge_di_Hume

La legge di Hume (anche detta problema dell'essere e del dover essere, in inglese Is–ought problem) ....

Patrick Hopkins
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the very existence


Explanation:
non lo so, proprio a intuito mi sembra che sia così

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the necessary coming to be


Explanation:
The formal imperative of the necessary coming to be of marriage in facto esse...

According to the reference as I understand it, it means the fact that matrimonium in facto esse necessarily follows on from matrimonium in fieri or necessarily comes to be (is a necessary consequence of)

https://books.google.it/books?id=JKgZEjvB5cEC&pg=PA1240&lpg=...

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essence / quintessence


Explanation:
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