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trouver des échos inquiétants

English translation: have worrying repercussions

17:51 Jan 25, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
French term or phrase: trouver des échos inquiétants
Context: an artists' manifesto contesting current views of contemporary decorative arts.

Full paragraph: "S’il est incontestable que les questions d’art décoratif depuis 1900 et l’Exposition de 1925 passionnent effectivement le public, il n’en demeure pas moins que, depuis quelque temps, les vociférations et les haros qui accueillent généralement, dès sa naissance, chaque évolution esthétique, quelle qu’elle soit, augmentent d’intensité et semblent même trouver des échos inquiétants. Les attaques contre l’art moderne, c’est-à-dire l’art le plus représentatif du temps et le plus conditionné par l’époque, se font de plus en plus vives. Et le fait même que plusieurs revues autorisées aient songé à ouvrir des enquêtes sur un débat qui, somme toute, ne pourrait être qu’un épisode de la vieille querelle des anciens et des modernes, montre l’importance du conflit. (…) En effet, il ne s’agit pas seulement aujourd’hui de se contenter de compter les points qui sont à l’actif de l’avant-garde et du traditionalisme dans une phase critique de l’éternel balancement action-réaction, mais de résoudre toute une série de problèmes artistiques étroitement liés et que viennent compliquer des faits sociaux, techniques, psychologiques et économiques entièrement nouveaux."

There are a number of elements in the paragraph above which I'm unsure about and which I'd love to discuss with you if you have some ideas... Here, I wanted to focus on what the phrase "trouver des échos inquiétants". I'm wondering whether this refers to the "quarrel of the Ancients and the Moderns" mentioned a little later. Or is it simply that these views are projected more widely today, hence the echoes?

I'd love to hear what you think!

Thanks,
Una
Una D.
France
Local time: 09:51
English translation:have worrying repercussions
Explanation:
Although today's reactions could echo (ha ha) those of the Ancients v. Moderns, I think, like the other answerers, that here it is a question of "echoes" coming from wider projections - more media coverage - more types of media...
My understanding is that all new art provokes protests, criticism, outrage; but at the present time, the fact that 'usual' reactions are intensified can be seen as more worrying - not just that today's society, with new technological, economic characteristics etc. (cf the end of your text) complicates things, but that, for example, it would seem, again from your extract, that it is felt necessary to open an "official" debate on what would previously have been seen as a normal phenomenon, i.e., the refusal of the innovative by traditionalists.

disturbing and troubling have been suggested in other answers and seem perfectly OK to me also.
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katsy
Local time: 09:51
Grading comment
Thanks, I like this reading of the text.
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Summary of answers provided
4...and seem even to echo one another in alarming ways
Huw Davies
3have worrying repercussions
katsy
3find uncomfortable echoes
kashew


Discussion entries: 1





  

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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
...and seem even to echo one another in alarming ways


Explanation:
The shouting and uproar prompted by each new aesthetic development seem to echo the reaction to the previous development, in ways that are alarming/disturbing.

Huw Davies
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:51
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  David Vaughn: The suggestion in bold type is OK, but the "Explanation" is a misreading of the text. "Troubling" is perhaps a good synonym for "inquiétants"
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
have worrying repercussions


Explanation:
Although today's reactions could echo (ha ha) those of the Ancients v. Moderns, I think, like the other answerers, that here it is a question of "echoes" coming from wider projections - more media coverage - more types of media...
My understanding is that all new art provokes protests, criticism, outrage; but at the present time, the fact that 'usual' reactions are intensified can be seen as more worrying - not just that today's society, with new technological, economic characteristics etc. (cf the end of your text) complicates things, but that, for example, it would seem, again from your extract, that it is felt necessary to open an "official" debate on what would previously have been seen as a normal phenomenon, i.e., the refusal of the innovative by traditionalists.

disturbing and troubling have been suggested in other answers and seem perfectly OK to me also.


katsy
Local time: 09:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 21
Grading comment
Thanks, I like this reading of the text.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
find uncomfortable echoes


Explanation:
uncomfortable via worrysome

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Note added at 2 jours 20 heures (2018-01-28 13:55:31 GMT)
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Or:
...bring the same old reactions.

kashew
France
Local time: 09:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 55

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Rachel Fell: worrisome, though
3 hrs
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