peu marqué (here)

English translation: not very pronounced

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French term or phrase:peu marqué
English translation:not very pronounced
Entered by: Tony M

21:28 Jul 26, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Geology / Landscape description
French term or phrase: peu marqué (here)
Context: "Deux types de pelouses coexistent dans ce milieu. La pelouse primaire s’étend sur de petites stations et des affleurements rocheux **peu marqués**. La pelouse secondaire est issue d’une évolution du milieu due à une perturbation souvent engendrée par l’activité humaine." In a description of the geological landscape in the Limousine in France.What is the meaning of rocky outcrops that are "peu marqués"? Not marked very much by what? Or perhaps "not very prominent"? Thanks in advance for any help!
Nicky Over
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:59
not very pronounced
Explanation:
or your own suggestion of 'not very prominent' (with slight reservations)

I don't think it means 'marked' by anything, but just that these rocky outcrops (?) are not particularly noticeable — which is certainly the case here in Limousin (please note: masculine!), compared to say Provence etc. The rocks here are often igneous, and hence harder, and do not give rise so much to the craggy limestone etc. outcrops so often associated with the South of France etc.

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My only qualm about 'not very prominent' in a geological context is that it could be understood to mean 'not sticking out very much', instead of the simpler meaning of 'not very visible'.

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Here's just one example of 'pronounced' used in its everyday meaning or 'marked', and in a geological context.

It may not be the ideal expression to use, or not to everyone's taste — but it certainly can't be said to be outright wrong!

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Preliminary Report on the Geology of the Arbuckle and Wichita ...

https://books.google.fr/books?id=ZG_pAAAAMAAJ

Joseph Alexander Taff, ‎Harry Foster Bain - 1904 - ‎Geology

Especially pronounced instances are found in the large resurrected Permian valley leading southeastward from Military Pass between the Wichita and Quana ...
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Tony M
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Local time: 15:59
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3not very accentuated
Diego Delfino
3 -1not very pronounced
Tony M
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peu marqué
not very accentuated


Explanation:
the relief is not very accentuated
https://books.google.it/books?id=tn7rCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA291&lpg=P...

Diego Delfino
Italy
Local time: 15:59
Native speaker of: Italian
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: your reference is about "le refief" in general, not "un affleurement" - s.t. far more specific/particular
1 hr

agree  philgoddard
1 hr
  -> Thank you very much Phil

disagree  Tony M: In this sort of context, I wouldn't tend to use 'accentuated', which to me implies some kind of deliberate act. / Leaning tower of Pisa has a pronounced (not accentuated) tilt to it — though it can be accentuated by the angle at which your photograph it.
8 hrs

agree  GILOU
11 hrs
  -> Thank you for the support GILOU! ^^
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peu marqué
not very pronounced


Explanation:
or your own suggestion of 'not very prominent' (with slight reservations)

I don't think it means 'marked' by anything, but just that these rocky outcrops (?) are not particularly noticeable — which is certainly the case here in Limousin (please note: masculine!), compared to say Provence etc. The rocks here are often igneous, and hence harder, and do not give rise so much to the craggy limestone etc. outcrops so often associated with the South of France etc.

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Note added at 9 heures (2017-07-27 06:53:43 GMT)
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My only qualm about 'not very prominent' in a geological context is that it could be understood to mean 'not sticking out very much', instead of the simpler meaning of 'not very visible'.

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Note added at 12 heures (2017-07-27 09:34:23 GMT)
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Here's just one example of 'pronounced' used in its everyday meaning or 'marked', and in a geological context.

It may not be the ideal expression to use, or not to everyone's taste — but it certainly can't be said to be outright wrong!

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Note added at 12 heures (2017-07-27 09:35:07 GMT)
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Preliminary Report on the Geology of the Arbuckle and Wichita ...

https://books.google.fr/books?id=ZG_pAAAAMAAJ

Joseph Alexander Taff, ‎Harry Foster Bain - 1904 - ‎Geology

Especially pronounced instances are found in the large resurrected Permian valley leading southeastward from Military Pass between the Wichita and Quana ...

Tony M
France
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  GILOU: pas en géologie, pour un accent par exemple
2 hrs
  -> Oh but yes, in EN! Far wider meaning than just accents! This isn't technical geology, just a landscape description, and 'pronounced' can indeed be applied in many geological contexts.

neutral  Daryo: certainly one possible interpretation, but not the only one - and so far I can't see on which grounds one would make more sense than the other ...
23 hrs
  -> It helps if you live in the area ;-)
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Reference comments


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Reference

Reference information:
Affleurement
Options géologie

Affleurement : un affleurement est une zone où la roche du sous-sol est visible. Le plus souvent, cette roche est située plus en profondeur et recouverte par le sol, la végétation ou les constructions.

Cependant, cette roche du sous-sol a pu être mis à nu pour diverses raisons : érosion, glissement de terrain, séisme, action de l'homme.....

On distingue ainsi deux types d’affleurements :

Affleurements naturels : les roches ont été dégagées naturellement (action de l’érosion, de la mer….). C’est le cas des rochers de bord de mer, des sommets de montagnes, des falaises….
Affleurements artificiels : les roches ont été mises à jour par l’activité humaine. C’est le cas des excavations pour les constructions, des carrières, des tranchées d’autoroutes….
Image: http://www.geowiki.fr/images/7/7e/Pointe_du_Payré_1.jpg

Un affleurement naturel : roches dégagées par la mer
La pointe du Payré, Jard sur mer, Vendée
Image: http://www.geowiki.fr/images/7/7e/Falaise_ornans_Doubs.jpg
Affeurement naturel : une falaise
Ornans, Doubs
Image: http://www.geowiki.fr/images/b/b3/Carrière_La_Vrignaie_1.jpg

Un affleurement artificiel : roches dégagées par l'action de l'homme
La carrière de la Vrignaie, Vairé, Vendée
Image: http://www.geowiki.fr/images/5/51/Tranchée_affleurement.jpg
Un autre affleurement artificiel : Tranchée pour le passage de canalisations
Talmont St Hilaire, Vendée

http://www.geowiki.fr/index.php?title=Affleurement


2.1.1 - Site 1 : Affleurement rocheux de Crolles (38) L’affleurement rocheux (voir figure 1) se situe dans la commune de Crolles, en Isère, France. Il s’agit d’un escarpement rocheux raide de pente moyenne 80°. Il est orienté sud ouest et mesure 10 m de haut par 15 m de large. La lithologie est constituée d’alternances marno-calcaires dont les joints stratigraphiques forment un plan de discontinuité très marqué, et recoupé par plusieurs familles de fractures affectant le massif dans son ensemble. Un petit surplomb rocheux dans la partie gauche de l’affleurement forme une zone d’ombre. Du fait de son escarpement, cet affleurement rocheux est impossible d’accès, pour des levés manuels en paroi avec un très fort risque de chutes de pierres. Les mesures structurales à la boussole ont donc été réalisées à gauche de l’affleurement, sur de petites surfaces. En revanche, l’accès au versant opposé est simple. Le site est dégagé et le géoréférencement est aisé.

https://jngg2016.sciencesconf.org/81582/document

Daryo
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
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Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Tony M: Confirms my 'rocky outcrops' — though your 'plan de discontinuité' is a bit of a red herring.
2 hrs
disagree  GILOU: donner la définition d'affleurement ne permet pas de résoudre la réponse. Le problème de la traduction ici est peu marqué
2 hrs
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