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le référé en Chambre du Conseil par Monsieur le Président

English translation: interim proceedings in chambers (heard) by the President/Presiding Judge

22:51 Jun 21, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / jugement de divorce (en Belgique)
French term or phrase: le référé en Chambre du Conseil par Monsieur le Président
Bonsoir, chers collègues,

Voici la phrase dans son contexte :
"Ouï, le référé en Chambre du Conseil par Monsieur le Président, de la demande en divorce par consentement mutuel, conformément à l'article 1298 du Code Judiciaire entre les époux:"

Bien à vous
Bruno Peres
Belgium
Local time: 01:39
English translation:interim proceedings in chambers (heard) by the President/Presiding Judge
Explanation:
Référé en droit français — Wikipédia
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Référé_en_droit_français
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En droit français, le référé est une procédure permettant de demander au juge qu'il ordonne des mesures provisoires mais rapides tendant à préserver les droits ...
Qu'est-ce qu'une procédure de référé ? - Le fonctionnement de la ...
www.vie-publique.fr/...civile/qu-est-ce-qu-procedure-refere...
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Lorsqu'un litige exige qu'une solution, au moins provisoire, soit prise dans l'urgence par le juge, une procédure spécifique dite de référé est prévue par la loi.

[...] si, dans le mois de sa
notification, l'une d'elles n'a pas saisi le tribunal de grande instance compétent statuant en chambre du conseil.
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[...] one month of its notification,
neither of the parties has submitted the case to the appropriate First Instance Court sitting in chambers.
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What if I have to go to Court? | Divorce Solicitors - Freeths
www.freethsoxford.co.uk/court
Get divorce advice and support from family law solicitors at Freeths. ... The final hearing will be held in the District Judge's Chambers and will be in private.
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:39
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1interim proceedings in chambers (heard) by the President/Presiding Judge
AllegroTrans
4heard by the Presiding judge in a closed session
Angelina Galanska
3heard in Council Chamber by the President
mrrafe


  

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
interim proceedings in chambers (heard) by the President/Presiding Judge


Explanation:
Référé en droit français — Wikipédia
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Référé_en_droit_français
Translate this page
En droit français, le référé est une procédure permettant de demander au juge qu'il ordonne des mesures provisoires mais rapides tendant à préserver les droits ...
Qu'est-ce qu'une procédure de référé ? - Le fonctionnement de la ...
www.vie-publique.fr/...civile/qu-est-ce-qu-procedure-refere...
Translate this page
Lorsqu'un litige exige qu'une solution, au moins provisoire, soit prise dans l'urgence par le juge, une procédure spécifique dite de référé est prévue par la loi.

[...] si, dans le mois de sa
notification, l'une d'elles n'a pas saisi le tribunal de grande instance compétent statuant en chambre du conseil.
intellektus.com

[...] one month of its notification,
neither of the parties has submitted the case to the appropriate First Instance Court sitting in chambers.
intellektus.com

What if I have to go to Court? | Divorce Solicitors - Freeths
www.freethsoxford.co.uk/court
Get divorce advice and support from family law solicitors at Freeths. ... The final hearing will be held in the District Judge's Chambers and will be in private.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1355
Notes to answerer
Asker: Je suis parfaitement d'accord avec vous, Monsieur AllegroTrans. "Référé: Dans tous les cas urgents, le président du tribunal de première instance peut prendre des décisions provisoires sur des matières qui sont de la compétence de son tribunal. On appelle également cette procédure "référé". Les conditions d'un référé sont l'urgence, le caractère provisoire de la décision et le fait que la décision ne porte pas préjudice à l'affaire. Quelques exemples : ordonner une expertise ou l'audition d'un témoin. Le président du tribunal de commerce ou le président du tribunal du travail peut également prendre de telles décisions sur des matières qui sont de la compétence de son tribunal."


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ben Gaia: Yeah but it's that counter-intuitive translation of "référé" that was asked for.
2 mins
  -> thanks for your agree but I now think that Chambre du Conseil doesn't mean "chambers" even though the hearing quite probably was "in chambers" (i.e. closed to the public and press)
neutral  mrrafe: I think the difference between the Brussels venue and US/UK "in chambers" is that the latter means the judge's private office, whereas BRX gives that office the name of a formal court (Council Chamber or court of 1st instance). So I'd say Council Chamber.
1 hr
  -> I agree with "Council Chamber"
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49 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
heard in Council Chamber by the President


Explanation:
I answered this a few minutes ago but the initial question meanwhile disappeared along with my answer. Will try to recreate it as follows:

This question was answered in 2005. I don't know how to find the ProZ URL but the 2005 answer is here:

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/law_general/1020...

I don't know why the 2005 answerer felt it necessary to read "refere" as "ayant entendu" in order to be more archaic.

The 2005 translation of the name of the court as "Court of First Instance" is more a functional description of the court; I would use the actual name, i.e., Council Chamber or Chamber of Council, which seem to be an EN or informal style and a FR style respectively.

Will try to relocate cites for those two names momentarily.

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Note added at 52 mins (2017-06-21 23:43:28 GMT)
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Council Chamber (EN): http://leuropeennedebruxelles.com/170414/council-chamber-ext...

Chamber of Council (FR): https://www.dictionnaire-juridique.com/definition/chambre-du...

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-22 00:32:15 GMT)
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OK, for a moment there were two questions about this and I answered twice, but the other has been closed. It was http://www.proz.com/kudoz/6349031

mrrafe
United States
Local time: 19:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  writeaway: in the 2005 question (with legal expert present) having heard was the translation of Ouï
9 hrs
  -> OK thanks
neutral  AllegroTrans: You have completely ignored the "procédure de référé" in the source text
10 hrs
  -> Initially yes, thanks. I do now believe Chambre de Conseil necessarily implies refere which in turn means closed session, expedited, interim/provisional. This is after re-reading the dictionnaire-juridique cite above.
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22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
heard by the Presiding judge in a closed session


Explanation:
Chair Dresser further indicated that both the Presiding Judge of Oakland ... employee has no right to have the matter heard in closed session.


Angelina Galanska
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in BulgarianBulgarian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: You have completely ignored the "procédure de référé" in the source text
2 hrs
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