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sur chaque raccordement, connexion ...

English translation: on each junction and means of connection

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French term or phrase:sur chaque raccordement, connexion ...
English translation:on each junction and means of connection
Entered by: Johannes Gleim

07:29 May 12, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Energy / Power Generation / Transmission network connection regulations
French term or phrase: sur chaque raccordement, connexion ...
The context for this phrase is a section addressing the positioning of metering or measurement equipment by the local transmission network operator. Until this point in the document, nearly two thirds of the way through, the term "raccordement" has been used for the "connection" point or "connection agreement" between the network manager and the generator. However, in the sentence below the term "connexion" is also used and evidently refers to something different:
"[Le gestionnaire du réseau de transport local et l’utilisateur du réseau concerné conviennent dans le contrat de raccordement de la localisation des équipements de mesure, qui sont notamment installés] ...sur chaque ***raccordement, connexion*** ou unité de production lorsqu’un équipement de mesure est nécessaire pour déterminer, par rapport au réseau de transport local ou à tout autre ***raccordement ou connexion***"
I would be grateful for any thoughts about the difference between "raccordement" and "connexion" and possible translation of "connexion" here, please. Could "raccordement" mean the connecting line, for example, and "connexion" the point of connection?
Many thanks in advance.
Rob
robgill
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:08
on each junction and means of connection
Explanation:
There is no much difference between both expressions.
It only differs in use. “raccordment” refers to the physical means of connection, while “connection” means the

Compare the following definitions:

A.− Liaison étroite et enchaînement entre certaines choses, certains phénomènes, certaines idées. Ces remarques mettent en lumière l'intime connexion du langage et de l'expérience effective des sujets (Traité de sociol.,1968, p. 263):
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/connexion

Action de raccorder deux choses, deux éléments d'un ensemble; résultat de cette action. Synon. jonction. Raccordement de deux bâtiments, de deux canalisations, de deux conducteurs électriques, de deux routes. Le raccordement des tuyaux secondaires de retour d'eau froide avec les colonnes principales s'effectue au moyen d'une pièce spéciale (Ser,Phys. industr., 1890, p. 891).On installe (...) sur des points déterminés du réseau, des postes (...) de raccordement quand on veut brancher deux lignes l'une sur l'autre (Pesquidoux,Livre raison, 1925, p. 192).
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/raccordement

Some application samples below:

... de télécommunications, ledit dispositif de raccordement et ledit dispositif de connexion étant disposés de manière qu'avec un câble raccordé sur le dispositif de raccordement, la connexion du connecteur au dispositif de connexion engendre une interconnexion entre l'équipement et le réseau. and connection means to receive a connector of the item of telecommunications equipment, the termination and connection means being so arranged that with a cable terminated on the termination means, connection of the connector to the connection means provides an interconnection between the equipment and the network.

L'élément de connexion central comprend un élément de raccordement de connexion.
The central connection member has a connection manifold member.

ENSEMBLE DE VERROUILLAGE MANUEL POUR RACCORDEMENT DE CONNEXION RAPIDE
A MANUAL LOCKING ASSEMBLY FOR A QUICK CONNECT COUPLING

GRILLE A REGISTRE ET CADRE DE RACCORDEMENT AVEC CONNEXION DETACHABLE
REGISTER GRILLE AND CONNECTOR FRAME WITH RELEASABLE CONNECTION

PIECE DE RACCORDEMENT ET DE CONNEXION POUR UN FLEXIBLE ONDULE
CONNECTION AND ATTACHMENT COMPONENT FOR A CORRUGATED HOSE

Un montage de boîtier est décrit avec au moins deux boîtes de jonction (2), une base (3) et un couvercle (4), les boîtes de jonction (2) possédant chacune un boîtier carré (6), dans les boîtiers (6), avec une barrette de raccordement pour la connexion d'un câble électrique (8, 9) ou d'une ligne, et les boîtiers (6) ayant deux ouvertures (10, 11) à la fois pour les câbles électriques (8, 9) ou les lignes. ... junction boxes (2), a base part (3) and a cover (4), the junction boxes (2) each having a square housing (6), in the housings (6) there being a terminal strip for electrical connection of an electric cable (8, 9) or a line, and the housings (6) having at two openings (10, 11) at a time for electric cables (8, 9) or lines.
http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-anglais/raccordemen...

Normally the English term “connection” covers both significations. But in order to differentiate you may translate “raccordement” by “junction” and "connexion” by “(means of) connection”
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Johannes Gleim
Local time: 21:08
Grading comment
Many thanks, Johannes:)
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1to each supply or connection point
B D Finch
4on each junction and means of connection
Johannes Gleim
4on each connection
Terry Richards
3at each stepdown, connection
mrrafe


Discussion entries: 5





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
on each junction and means of connection


Explanation:
There is no much difference between both expressions.
It only differs in use. “raccordment” refers to the physical means of connection, while “connection” means the

Compare the following definitions:

A.− Liaison étroite et enchaînement entre certaines choses, certains phénomènes, certaines idées. Ces remarques mettent en lumière l'intime connexion du langage et de l'expérience effective des sujets (Traité de sociol.,1968, p. 263):
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/connexion

Action de raccorder deux choses, deux éléments d'un ensemble; résultat de cette action. Synon. jonction. Raccordement de deux bâtiments, de deux canalisations, de deux conducteurs électriques, de deux routes. Le raccordement des tuyaux secondaires de retour d'eau froide avec les colonnes principales s'effectue au moyen d'une pièce spéciale (Ser,Phys. industr., 1890, p. 891).On installe (...) sur des points déterminés du réseau, des postes (...) de raccordement quand on veut brancher deux lignes l'une sur l'autre (Pesquidoux,Livre raison, 1925, p. 192).
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/raccordement

Some application samples below:

... de télécommunications, ledit dispositif de raccordement et ledit dispositif de connexion étant disposés de manière qu'avec un câble raccordé sur le dispositif de raccordement, la connexion du connecteur au dispositif de connexion engendre une interconnexion entre l'équipement et le réseau. and connection means to receive a connector of the item of telecommunications equipment, the termination and connection means being so arranged that with a cable terminated on the termination means, connection of the connector to the connection means provides an interconnection between the equipment and the network.

L'élément de connexion central comprend un élément de raccordement de connexion.
The central connection member has a connection manifold member.

ENSEMBLE DE VERROUILLAGE MANUEL POUR RACCORDEMENT DE CONNEXION RAPIDE
A MANUAL LOCKING ASSEMBLY FOR A QUICK CONNECT COUPLING

GRILLE A REGISTRE ET CADRE DE RACCORDEMENT AVEC CONNEXION DETACHABLE
REGISTER GRILLE AND CONNECTOR FRAME WITH RELEASABLE CONNECTION

PIECE DE RACCORDEMENT ET DE CONNEXION POUR UN FLEXIBLE ONDULE
CONNECTION AND ATTACHMENT COMPONENT FOR A CORRUGATED HOSE

Un montage de boîtier est décrit avec au moins deux boîtes de jonction (2), une base (3) et un couvercle (4), les boîtes de jonction (2) possédant chacune un boîtier carré (6), dans les boîtiers (6), avec une barrette de raccordement pour la connexion d'un câble électrique (8, 9) ou d'une ligne, et les boîtiers (6) ayant deux ouvertures (10, 11) à la fois pour les câbles électriques (8, 9) ou les lignes. ... junction boxes (2), a base part (3) and a cover (4), the junction boxes (2) each having a square housing (6), in the housings (6) there being a terminal strip for electrical connection of an electric cable (8, 9) or a line, and the housings (6) having at two openings (10, 11) at a time for electric cables (8, 9) or lines.
http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-anglais/raccordemen...

Normally the English term “connection” covers both significations. But in order to differentiate you may translate “raccordement” by “junction” and "connexion” by “(means of) connection”


Johannes Gleim
Local time: 21:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 56
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Many thanks, Johannes:)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
at each stepdown, connection


Explanation:
The raccordement may be a connection where voltage is stepped down (hence, adjusted) from the high tension voltage level to a lower level.


    Reference: http://www.imesys.fr/nt-pdf/NT733.pdf
mrrafe
United States
Local time: 15:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: I don't see how your reference supports that interpretation, or how that reference relates to the ST.// A horse is an animal, but not all animals are horses.
4 mins
  -> Because the advertisement describes the voltage transformer as a raccordement.
neutral  Johannes Gleim: BD is right, the subject does not deal with stepdown transformers. BTW your reference refers to Voltage transformers. And "raccordement" designates here the terminal connection of the transformer. Off the subject.
2 hrs
  -> Yes, my point was that the "adjustment" implicit in raccordement would be a voltage stepdown, at the voltage transformer. There could be metering at the terminal connection.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
to each supply or connection point


Explanation:
Though the two terms are often used interchangeably, the fact they are both used here seems to mean that "raccordement" is used to mean connection to a mains supply and "connexion" is used to mean connection to the client-side installation. An incoming mains utility connection point is called a "supply".

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-05-12 09:03:39 GMT)
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Of course, all of this is "mains supply", but it's a bit clunkier to spell out that it's where the local network operator connects to the generator supply.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 21:08
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 44

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agree  Kim Metzger
10 hrs
  -> Thanks Kim
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
on each connection


Explanation:
Languages don't always map 1:1 and I don't see any problem with omitting one term in a list when more than one term maps to the same term in the target language. Particularly in the context of a legal document where the author is trying to cover all possibilities and the two source terms are almost identical in the source language. This can also happen the other way round where more than one target term is needed to cover a source term.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2017-05-12 11:21:50 GMT)
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If you want to be absolutely sure you have covered all the possibilities, you could use "connection of any type".

Terry Richards
France
Local time: 21:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 47

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  mrrafe: Yes but raccordement suggests a voltage change while connection doesn't. If in doubt whether raccordement is surplusage beside connection, I would presume not. As the courts say about statutory construction, the presumption is that no word is gratuitous
50 mins
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