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relaciones de politicidad

English translation: political relations

11:16 Apr 25, 2017
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / social policy
Spanish term or phrase: relaciones de politicidad
Como premisa, partimos de la idea de que los principios que construyen relaciones de politicidad entre sociedad vulnerable y Estado se encuentran implícitos en el discurso de las reglas de operación e implementación de los programas sociales.
tapatia
France
English translation:political relations
Explanation:
Or "political links".
CTC.

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Note added at 2 days4 mins (2017-04-27 11:21:00 GMT) Post-grading
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Maybe I'm just just too long in the tooth and grumpy, but I just can't bring myself to countenance words like "politicity" and prefer never to use them unless I really, really have to.
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neilmac
Spain
Local time: 08:36
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For this sentence, this seems to be the best translation. I did find that the term "politicidad" has been translated as "politicity".
[https://crowddiplomacy.wordpress.com/social-networks-politicity/

http://www.jjohnpaterman.com/site/writings/the-politicity-of-a-contemporary-art-figure-jeremy-deller/]

Thank you for the advice.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3political relations
neilmac
4active political relationships toward social change
Martin Harvey
3 +1relations of a political nature
Marcelo González
3relationships based on citizen engagement
Muriel Vasconcellos
Summary of reference entries provided
Muriel Vasconcellos

  

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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
active political relationships toward social change


Explanation:
Based on what politicidad means in Spanish, from what I have seen...


    Reference: http://transformacionesestructuraleschile.wordpress.com/poli...
Martin Harvey
Argentina
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you!

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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
relationships based on citizen engagement


Explanation:
Based on the explanation in the reference I cited. Now...how to fit that in your sentence is another question.

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 23:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 305
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for the definition, it was very helpful.

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
relations of a political nature


Explanation:
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We part from the premise that implicit/evidenced in the principles on which relations of a political nature are forged between a vulnerable society and the State is the prevailing discourse on the functioning and implementation of [existing] social programs.

That's my take at least

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Note added at 10 hrs (2017-04-25 21:42:48 GMT)
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My suggestion seeks to reproduce the source text's apparent lack of concision, as a bit of wordiness may be necessary to create an 'equivalent effect'.

I hope this helps.

Marcelo González
United States
Local time: 20:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 91
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you! it is very helpful, the text is very wordy indeed.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  neilmac: This is the only suggestion so far that I'd consider using. The rest are all too wordy for my liking...
2 hrs
  -> Though a certain wordiness here may help to create stylistic symmetry w/a wordy source text... Thanks, Neil and cheers :-)
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
political relations


Explanation:
Or "political links".
CTC.

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Note added at 2 days4 mins (2017-04-27 11:21:00 GMT) Post-grading
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Maybe I'm just just too long in the tooth and grumpy, but I just can't bring myself to countenance words like "politicity" and prefer never to use them unless I really, really have to.


    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/cut_the_crap
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 08:36
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 51
Grading comment
For this sentence, this seems to be the best translation. I did find that the term "politicidad" has been translated as "politicity".
[https://crowddiplomacy.wordpress.com/social-networks-politicity/

http://www.jjohnpaterman.com/site/writings/the-politicity-of-a-contemporary-art-figure-jeremy-deller/]

Thank you for the advice.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Diego Zaragoza: simpler
4 mins
agree  Marcelo González: This works, too.
7 hrs
agree  nweatherdon: The original does not state it in a form that is operationalizable, and so the vague or abstract sense of this seems fine here
12 hrs
  -> Sorry, but even after googling the definition, I still don't know what "operationalizable" means. File under BS/too wordy/aesthetically unappealing.
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Reference comments


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Reference

Reference information:
POLITICIDAD: El historiador Gabriel Salazar define este concepto como la modificación de las actitudes y relaciones al interior del campo popular, traducidas en acciones, presiones y reivindicaciones de dichos actores hacia el estado, en pro de cambios económicos, sociales y políticos, más allá de las instituciones de representación peticionista.

Este concepto central será utilizado a lo largo de la investigación y de la propuesta didáctica, ya que nos entrega las visiones acerca de las lógicas colectivas de la sociedad, que busca en la participación, organización y demanda, la posibilidad de expandir el horizonte de lo político, a través de estas nuevas formas de expresar su Politicidad.


    Reference: http://https://transformacionesestructuraleschile.wordpress....
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 305
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