Child soldiers

Swahili translation: bakadogo (Kingwana - DRC Swahili) & askari watoto/ wanajeshi watoto (Standard Swahili)

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English term or phrase:Child soldiers
Swahili translation:bakadogo (Kingwana - DRC Swahili) & askari watoto/ wanajeshi watoto (Standard Swahili)
Entered by: John Farebrother

16:32 Nov 29, 2016
English to Swahili translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Military / Defense
English term or phrase: Child soldiers
I know the singular is "kadogo"; but what is the plural?
John Farebrother
United Kingdom
bakadogo (Kingwana - DRC Swahili) & askari watoto/ wanajeshi watoto (Standard Swahili)
Explanation:
Child Soldier in Swahili really depends on which dialect of Swahili that you want. It is evident that our esteemed asker John is in need of the Kingwana dialect word for Child soldiers. Now, in Kingwana and ordinarily Child soldier is referred to as Mutoto Soda (singular) and Batoto Soda (plural). However within the military where these child soldiers are/ were deployed they coined a slang word for them. To them, Child soldier is referred to as Kadogo (singular) and Bakadogo (plural). But in the Standard Swahili (which I subscribe to and is proud of) Child soldier may be referred to as askari mtoto or mwanajeshi mtoto (singular) and askari watoto or wanajeshi watoto (plural).

Other colleagues may want to refer to the Child soldier as mtoto askari or mtoto mwanajeshi (singular) and watoto askari or watoto wanajeshi (plural). Well, I cannot rush to disagree with them especially if I have not given my opinion on this like most of us do but now that I have I think I prefer the former - lest we start having polisi askari, kanzu askari, kongo askari, jeshi askari and the likes instead of having askari polisi, askari kanzu, askari kongo, askari jeshi and the likes.
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Mpasua Msonobari
Kenya
Local time: 04:30
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Aksante sana mzee
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1wanajeshi watoto
Jonah Ondieki
5 +1bakadogo (Kingwana - DRC Swahili) & askari watoto/ wanajeshi watoto (Standard Swahili)
Mpasua Msonobari
5Watoto wanajeshi
Secilia Njau
5askari watoto
James Lue
5wanajeshi watoto
Muthami


  

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child soldiers
wanajeshi watoto


Explanation:
No need for explanation here :)
I hope I helped you. Refer to:
http://www.bbc.com/swahili/habari/2015/03/150322_sudan_k
http://www.bbc.com/swahili/habari-37944664


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Note added at 27 mins (2016-11-29 17:00:33 GMT)
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"kadogo" could be a slang in Kigwana (Congolese Swahili dialect). Or a coded language. The term is derived from the Swahili adjective root "-dogo" which may mean small, young, little ...

Example sentence(s):
  • "Ntaganda aliyepewa jina la utani kama 'The Terminator' amekana mashtaka 18 yanayomkabili ikiwemo mauaji,ubakaji na kuwatumia wanajeshi watoto."

    Reference: http://www.bbc.com/swahili/habari-37944664
Jonah Ondieki
United States
Local time: 20:30
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for your response. What I am actually looking for is the plural of 'kadogo'.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ALEX KITONDO: mdogo is corect grammar
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child soldiers
Watoto wanajeshi


Explanation:
Is Kadogo a slang? because in Swahili its "watoto wa wanajeshi"

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Note added at 45 mins (2016-11-29 17:17:57 GMT)
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Okay, its plural is "wadogo" although in Swahili noun class should fall under ki/vi but since ki/vi is for object we cant say "vidogo" as it will refer to object and not subject.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Swahili_noun_classes

Example sentence(s):
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Secilia Njau
United States
Local time: 04:30
Native speaker of: Native in SwahiliSwahili, Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: It may well be slang, I came across it in the DRC.

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
child soldiers
bakadogo (Kingwana - DRC Swahili) & askari watoto/ wanajeshi watoto (Standard Swahili)


Explanation:
Child Soldier in Swahili really depends on which dialect of Swahili that you want. It is evident that our esteemed asker John is in need of the Kingwana dialect word for Child soldiers. Now, in Kingwana and ordinarily Child soldier is referred to as Mutoto Soda (singular) and Batoto Soda (plural). However within the military where these child soldiers are/ were deployed they coined a slang word for them. To them, Child soldier is referred to as Kadogo (singular) and Bakadogo (plural). But in the Standard Swahili (which I subscribe to and is proud of) Child soldier may be referred to as askari mtoto or mwanajeshi mtoto (singular) and askari watoto or wanajeshi watoto (plural).

Other colleagues may want to refer to the Child soldier as mtoto askari or mtoto mwanajeshi (singular) and watoto askari or watoto wanajeshi (plural). Well, I cannot rush to disagree with them especially if I have not given my opinion on this like most of us do but now that I have I think I prefer the former - lest we start having polisi askari, kanzu askari, kongo askari, jeshi askari and the likes instead of having askari polisi, askari kanzu, askari kongo, askari jeshi and the likes.


Example sentence(s):
  • Kingwana dialect; 1. Kadogo anakuya apa. 2. Bakadogo banakuya apa. 3. Mutoto soda anakuya apa. 4. Batoto soda banakuya apa.
  • Standard Swahili dialect; 1. Askari mtoto amekombolewa kule DRC. 2. Habari za kutekwa nyara kwa watoto askari yahuzunisha. 3. Aliyekuwa mwanajeshi mtoto aaga dunia. 4. Wanajeshi watoto waachiliwa huru.

    Reference: http://www.tanzaniatoday.co.tz/news/askari-watoto-wasajiliwa...
    Reference: http://kamalprashar.co.uk/project/kadogo-child-soldier/
Mpasua Msonobari
Kenya
Local time: 04:30
Native speaker of: Native in SwahiliSwahili
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Aksante sana mzee

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mwenda: Even the word "SODA" itself is derived from french word "Soldat" So, people in the DRC borrowed the pronunciation from French. The "child soldier'' is commonly know in the DRC as «KADOGO» and plural as «BAKADOGO» or «WAKADOGO»
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child soldiers
askari watoto


Explanation:
The word "kadogo" is not related at all to"child soldiers". It is a diminutive form of "mdogo", i.e. small.

James Lue
Tanzania
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child soldiers
wanajeshi watoto


Explanation:
The adjective 'child' in this case is translated as 'watoto' while the noun 'soldiers' becomes 'wanajeshi'

Example sentence(s):
  • Ni kinyume na haki za binadamu kuwa na wanajeshi watoto kwa kikosi.
Muthami
Kenya
Local time: 04:30
Native speaker of: Native in KikuyuKikuyu, Native in SwahiliSwahili
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