Hilfe mit Satzverständnis

English translation: Tolerance range provided does not permit movement of the lifting device

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German term or phrase:	Hilfe mit Satzverständnis
English translation:	Tolerance range provided does not permit movement of the lifting device
Entered by:	Heike Holthaus

14:32 Sep 1, 2016

German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Transport / Transportation / Shipping / Vertikalförderer

German term or phrase: Hilfe mit Satzverständnis

Eine Bewegung des Hubschlittens wird im Rahmen der vorgesehenen Toleranz verhindert.

Verstehe ich das so richtig:

Movement of the lifting device is prevented within the intended tolerance.

Das mit dem "im Rahmen -> within" liegt mir irgendwie quer.

TIA

Heike

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Tolerance range provided does not permit movement of the lifting device

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This is to offer help with sentence construction. Whether the technical terms are correct is a different matter..

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Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 12:41

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Danke!
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Summary of answers provided

Any movement of the lift carriage in the foreseen tolerance range is not allowed.

DanielaBonvi

3 +2

Tolerance range provided does not permit movement of the lifting device

Michael Martin, MA

prevented by the stipulated tolerance (or similar)

Johannes Gleim

Discussion entries: 9

Johannes Gleim

With Ramey

08:31 Sep 2, 2016

The term "im Rahmen der" can be translated simply by "by".
The term "vorgesehen" means intended, mandatory, specified, designed, provided, etc.

Wordings like "movement not allowed within the tolerances" implies another mechanism, impairing movement, what is not the case in the context. On the other side, the text does not confirm that the provided tolerance is sufficient to impair any movement. Nevertheless, the play will allow a very small movement.

Liane Poost

Germany

21:45 Sep 1, 2016

Eine Bewegung des Hubschlittens wird verhindert. (Gemäß der Toleranzgrenzen.)

Also z.B., wenn man ganz stark drückt, dann bewegt sich der Schlitten, weil die Toleranzgrenze überschritten worden ist.

So würde ich das verstehen. Ich weiß nicht, ob es Sinn macht.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

16:26 Sep 1, 2016

The holding framework prohibits any extraneous lifting device movement.
OR
Movement of the lifting device will prevent preordained tolerance. (garble, garble, garble)

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

So, do you have the freedom

16:09 Sep 1, 2016

to say so?
Rahmen hier, refers then to the frame in which the lifting device is secured, haha..nice loophole:
the lifting device is secured within the frame and cannot move.
Lifting device movement is prohibited by the frame to which it is attached.
The frame's tolerance range (senseless mechanicese) prohibits any movement of the lifting device.

Heike Holthaus

United States

ASKER

The lifting device

16:04 Sep 1, 2016

is only secured mechanically. NO electronic parameters involved. It is stuck this "bracket" and can't move.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

So there are NO

15:59 Sep 1, 2016

electronic parameters allowing or preventing movement in a certain direction? The lifting device is secured, preventing any extraneous movement?

Heike Holthaus

United States

ASKER

@ Ramey

15:51 Sep 1, 2016

Der Hubschlitten wird mit einer am Rahmen des Vertikalförderes angebrachten Wartungsstütze gesichert. Die Wartungsstütze ist lediglich ein Teil aus Metall mit einer Aussparung, das am Rahmen montiert wird. Ein Vorsprung an der Rückseite des Hubschlittens rastet in die Aussparung ein, wodurch sich der Hubschlitten weder nach oben noch nach unten bewegen kann. Ich denke daher, dass mit Toleranz hier der Spielraum in der Aussparung gemeint ist.

Leider kann ich hier keine Abblidung anhängen.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

What about 'by'?

15:29 Sep 1, 2016

It seems obvious to me, that the tolerance range parameters prohibit the movement, so movement above and beyond the tolerance range is prevented by the tolerance range parameters.

Heike Holthaus

United States

ASKER

Terminology

15:17 Sep 1, 2016

lifting device für Hubschlitten ist vom Kunden vorgegeben. Ich verstehe den deutschen Satz so:

Jegliche Bewegung des Hubschlittens wird verhindert, außer kleinen Bewegungen im vorgesehenen Toleranzbereich.

Answers

18 mins confidence:

Any movement of the lift carriage in the foreseen tolerance range is not allowed.

Explanation:
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DanielaBonvi
Italy
Local time: 18:41
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Italian

31 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

Tolerance range provided does not permit movement of the lifting device

Explanation:
This is to offer help with sentence construction. Whether the technical terms are correct is a different matter..

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 12:41
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in category: 30

Grading comment

Danke!

17 hrs confidence:

im Rahmen der vorgesehenen Toleranz verhindert prevented by the stipulated tolerance (or similar)

Explanation:
Reminds me the Goggle translation:

Eine Bewegung des Hubschlittens wird im Rahmen der vorgesehenen Toleranz verhindert.
A movement of the lifting is prevented within the set tolerance.

Correct is: “movement of lifting device is prevented by the given tolerance.”
Or: “movement of lifting device is impaired/impeded by the stipulated tolerance.”

You may replace "im Rahmen der" by "durch".

Begründung: Wenn Riegel und Ausnehmung am Rahmen den in der Zeichnung angegebenen Toleranzen entsprechen, passt der Riegel genau in die Ausnehmung und der Hubschlitten kann sich nicht (oder kaum) bewegen.
Wenn die Toleranzen zu eng sind, kann der Riegel nicht in die Ausnehmung fallen, weil die Position des Hubschlittens nicht immer gleich ist.
Wenn das Spiel zwischen Riegel und Ausnehmung zu groß ist, ist die Hubschlittenposition nicht mehr gewährleistet, weil der Schlitten sich hin und her bewegen kann.

Explanation: If bolt and recess on the frame meet the tolerances specified in the drawing, the lock fits into the recess and the lifting cannot move (or hardly).
If the tolerances are too tight, the bolt cannot fall into the recess, as the position of the lifting device is not always identical due to its own tolerances in movement.
If the play between bolt and recess is too large, the position of the lifting device is not assured as the device may move to and fro.

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 18:41
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 171

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