principe de SAS d’isolement

English translation: anti-passback principle

22:03 May 31, 2016

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Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Security and safety report for a business

French term or phrase: principe de SAS d’isolement

Hello

This phrase is in a section of the report talking about access to the company's sites:

Le principe de SAS d’isolement avec identification et unicité de passage est appliqué aussi bien pour les personnes que pour les véhicules.

Thanks

Mark

Mark Radcliffe KudoZ activity Questions: 116 (none open) (11 closed without grading) Answers: 23 United Kingdom
Local time: 21:06

English translation:anti-passback principle

Explanation:
I think this one is going to depend on the type of access point and the facility. I'm attaching references that provide definitions that might go along with your context better.

If you think anti-passback is too specific in this case, I think the generic "access control principle" might work.

If you research "unicité de passage" (see below link) you find the tailgaiting issue, which is what these systems are designed to prevent. I think that is what "isolation" is referring to here.

http://amt-us.com/Content/Documents/Glossary of Security Ter...

http://www.biztechafrica.com/article/biometrics-and-evolved-...

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I see a few problems here, and I think Mark will have to be the one to shed light on it given that he has the source.

Based on the evidence in front of us:

1) We are dealing with access to the sites, not to the buildings.
2) We are dealing with access by vehicles, not just by persons.
3) We are dealing with a PRINCIPLE, not an entrance, not a gate system, but an intangible principle.

Although I normally would agree with Daryo's suggestion, "controlled transition zone," in most cases that is exactly correct, I think the evidence points towards something else in this case.

This something else must:
1) Be an access PRINCIPLE, not an access zone
2) Allow vehicles to pass
3) Guarantee single passage (unicité de passage)
4) Enable identification.

The only solution that I found that fits with what we have here is what I suggested, although I don't rule out other solutions.

Selected response from:

Dareth Pray
United States
Local time: 13:06

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Summary of answers provided

Interlocking doors / Man trap / Person Trap / Personal transfer units / Security Booth / Security V

Anca Florescu-Mitchell

access control vestibule/lobby

B D Finch

anti-passback principle

Dareth Pray

4 -1

principle of the controlled buffer zone

Daryo

Summary of reference entries provided

We've had this before

philgoddard

airlock principle

Alison MacG

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

20 mins confidence:

anti-passback principle

Dareth Pray
United States
Local time: 13:06
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 6

Grading comment

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5 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

principe de sas d’isolement principle of the controlled buffer zone

Explanation:
Le principe de SAS d’isolement avec identification et unicité de passage est appliqué aussi bien pour les personnes que pour les véhicules.
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"avec identification et unicité de passage" is a clue as to what is being "isolated" - it's about isolating each individual vehicle or person that is entering from the "external" to the "internal" zone (or vice versa), not "isolating" the "interior space" for the "exterior";

IOW it could be renamed

"principe de la zone de transition contrôlée",

wich "zone de transition" becomes in effect "une zone tampon" - i.e. a buffer zone.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:06
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Serbian,

French
PRO pts in category: 166

11 hrs confidence:

Interlocking doors / Man trap / Person Trap / Personal transfer units / Security Booth / Security V

Explanation:
The answer is taken from this document (page 8):

http://www.bsia.co.uk/Portals/4/Publications/form_132_specif...

You just need to choose a name for this principle :)!

Anca Florescu-Mitchell
France
Local time: 22:06
Native speaker of:

French,

English

12 hrs confidence:

access control vestibule/lobby

Explanation:
An alternative to "man-trap", which is also used, but could be confusing as well as letting us wimmin get in to rob the bank!

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web...

www.google.co.uk/patents/US62986039
The access control vestibule according to claim 1, further comprising: ...

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/10/09/weapons-control-...
"The access control system consists of a bullet resistant aluminum frame enclosed by bullet resistant glass, and a bullet resistive ceiling. The frame is divided into two separate compartments: one for entry and one for exit. Passage through each compartment is controlled by a set of two intercommunicating doors. Entry doors and exit doors are totally separate systems. Control of the doors is achieved through the use of exit devices, magnetic locks, infrared sensors, and a metal detector.

"NovaComm’s Access Control Vestibule can distinguish between magnetic, non-magnetic and mixed alloys weapons."

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I suggest that you can omit "principle" as it is somewhat redundant. Also, "man-trap" is a bit odd when applied to vehicle access control.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 22:06
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 308

Reference comments

31 mins peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: We've had this before

Reference information:
SAS is a typo - it should be "Sas".

It may not literally mean "airlock" - we don't have enough context to know what kind of business it is - and it could just be a metaphor, in which case I'd put "airlock" in quotation marks.

Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/medical_general/...

philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 295

Note to reference poster

Asker: Thanks Phil - I went with "airlock" access principle Mark

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)

neutral

Tony M: Yes, in this case, it's not literally an airlock, and I don't think even putting it in quotes would be appropriate here; this is just some kind of 'lobby' idea, probably between two 'gates' of sorts (or pair of doors), as sometimes used for livestock

7 mins

neutral

Daryo: no, it doesn't mean automatically "airlock" in every possible occurrence of the term // the basic idea is "controlled transition zone" like the entrance in some bank branches - a corridor with two doors [or two grills!], only one opens at the same

4 hrs

-> Yes, like an airlock.

agree

Alison MacG: I think the inclusion of "Le principe de" makes airlock quite acceptable. I've added some refs below.

15 hrs

-> Thanks. A literal translation works perfectly well, so why complicate things?

16 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: airlock principle

Reference information:
The solution to the technical requirements posed by the client was to install an airlock principle system comprising 2 palisade cantilever sliding gates where one vehicle at a time could be held in a pen to ensure that the perimeter of the compond was secure at all times. http://www.agdsystems.co.uk/case-studies/317

Perhaps the ultimately secure turnstile solution is the so-called ‘security booth’ or ‘security cubicle’ of the type that works on the principle of an airlock. This is formed by a cubicle of dimensions sufficient to accommodate just one person which allows the user to enter through an opening on the unsecure side and exit on the secure side, the two openings never being unsecured at the same moment.
http://www.riscauthority.co.uk/free-document-library/ (search for S29: Guide to Electronic Access Control Systems (EACS))

There should be a single main entrance to and exit from the building with an airlock operated by central control room that co-ordinates the entry and exit of all staff, patients and visitors.
…
There should be a secure centrally controlled and monitored airlock for vehicles requiring access to deliver goods and services to the site.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachm...

Also another previous question: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/mechanics_mech_e...

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

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