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the nature of ... riches

English translation: the nature of the concept of riches / what things are to be regarded as riches

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English term or phrase:the nature of ... riches
Selected answer:the nature of the concept of riches / what things are to be regarded as riches
Entered by: Ana Juliá

11:35 May 3, 2016
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Religion / About the book of Proverbs
English term or phrase: the nature of ... riches
Prov 24:3–4 Saying Twenty. The images of wisdom’s benefits (a house . . . built, established, and filled) include material provision in addition to a blessed family life. However, the means by which they are received (by wisdom, understanding, and knowledge) are presented in Proverbs as stemming from the fear of the Lord. Thus ***the nature of and posture toward riches*** is always to be governed by the priority of pursuing wisdom.

How can the nature of riches be governed by the priority of pursuing wisdom?
Ana Juliá
Spain
Local time: 05:20
the nature of the concept of riches / what things are to be regarded as riches
Explanation:
Phil's stricture is not entirely unjustified; you could object that this is loosely expressed. But I don't think it's that bad. Things are only riches if people consider them so; the idea of riches is of attributing value to things. The intrinsic nature of the things themselves, the nature of gold, for example, can't be affected by wisdom. But the nature of the idea of riches, in the sense of the nature of the value we attribute to things that makes them riches, and by extension the nature of the kind of things to which we do or should attribute such value, certainly is affected by wisdom. What the writer means here, I think, is that wisdom must guide us in deciding what things are riches, what things are to be valued.
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Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 05:20
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Thanks again!
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4 +3It can't.
philgoddard
4 +3the nature of the concept of riches / what things are to be regarded as riches
Charles Davis


  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
It can't.


Explanation:
This is just bad writing.
If you're translating this, I suggest leaving out "the nature of" and putting a note explaining why - it doesn't make sense.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Yasutomo Kanazawa
24 mins
agree  acetran
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agree  AllegroTrans
1 day 7 hrs
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
the nature of the concept of riches / what things are to be regarded as riches


Explanation:
Phil's stricture is not entirely unjustified; you could object that this is loosely expressed. But I don't think it's that bad. Things are only riches if people consider them so; the idea of riches is of attributing value to things. The intrinsic nature of the things themselves, the nature of gold, for example, can't be affected by wisdom. But the nature of the idea of riches, in the sense of the nature of the value we attribute to things that makes them riches, and by extension the nature of the kind of things to which we do or should attribute such value, certainly is affected by wisdom. What the writer means here, I think, is that wisdom must guide us in deciding what things are riches, what things are to be valued.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 05:20
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 172
Grading comment
Thanks again!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Robert Forstag
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Robert :)
agree  Ashutosh Mitra
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Ashutosh :)
agree  JaneTranslates: Absolutely. As usual, you wrote just what I wanted to write, and you did it sooner and better. Wise people (I aspire to be one--haven't made it yet) and unwise ones certainly define "riches" differently.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you very much, Jane :)
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