la ruine
English translation: hook knife
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| 11:34 Apr 27, 2016 |
| French to English translations [PRO] Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / Traditional tools for hand-carving clogs in France | |||||||
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| 4 +1 | hook knife |
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| 5 | clog maker's stock knife |
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| 4 | the spoils |
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the spoils Explanation: comme les spoils of war |
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peer agreement (net): +1hook knife Explanation: Acknowledgements to Barbara for quoting the text which shows that a ruine is the same as a rouanne. This is a great help and widens the frame of reference. Here's another that makes the link, with some good pictures (nearly halfway down): "puis avec 2 rouannes de sabotier, je pense que l'outil se rattache plus à la famille des rouannes ou ruines" http://www.forum-outils-anciens.com/t4321-Demande-n-15.htm And here's an old book about wood carving tools, with some very good pictures. See nos. 8 and 9 on page 16 (Outils pour Sabotiers et Galochiers) and the corresponding illustrations on p. 17: "8. Rouane ou ruine à douille (droite ou cintrée) 9. Rouane, Ruine, Rogne ou Chavette à tige" http://www.fangpo1.com/Taillanderie_Toucy1.pdf Here's a "ruine de sabotier" (the corresponding ad has been deleted: https://img5.leboncoin.fr/images/ccf/ccf9887937f1139ceb8b9e3... And another, where you can expand the picture: http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,181805896,var,OUTIL-DE-... And on this page (near the foot) a sabotier describes his rouanne, with a picture: "La rouanne est un outil à lame que j’utilise pour finir de creuser le fond du sabot depuis le coup de pied jusqu’à sa pointe." http://www.sabotierdujura.com/sabotier_pages_explicatives/le... And here he show a close-up of the tip of his rouanne, saying "Avec la Rouanne je termine la partie avant du pied à l’intérieur du sabot." http://www.sabotierdujura.com/pages_catalogue/sabots-en-bois... Well now, this is not a stock knife, which is a paroir, a big heavy-duty pivoted blade for shaping the sole. I think the ruine/rouanne is a hook knife, also sometimes called a spoon knife or crook knife. Here's a page about them, with lots of pictures which really do resemble the French ones: http://www.robin-wood.co.uk/wood-craft-blog/2013/01/29/best-... See also: "The hook tool refines the heel and toe of the shoe. The finish of the toe is a distinct calling card of the maker; slight differences are found by region." http://woodworker.org/nl/sep13.pdf -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 5 hrs (2016-04-27 16:47:01 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- This one's Dutch, but that doesn't mean it isn't right (and it's illustrated again): "Photo 41 shows that the wooden shoe maker uses the tip of the hook knife on the inner side. He also creates sufficient room for the big toe with this hook (which is important to prevent toe nails from growing into the toe)." http://www.lundehund.nl/klompenmaken/ch11_e.html "the hook tool he used for finishing is a 'rouanne'." https://www.bodgers.org.uk/BB/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=634 -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 5 hrs (2016-04-27 17:27:28 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- I'm also finding some support for "spoon gouge". |
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clog maker's stock knife Explanation: Explanation: This is an alternative spelling for "ruanne". It looks like a hooked scraper/chisel, possibly for finishing the inside of the toe. For a clear drawing of one download the second picture from the left under the "Les outils" heading in : http://metiers.free.fr/as/s001_b.html "Le boutoir et la ruine (ou rouanne) permettaient d'accéder au fond du sabot pour la finition." Compare the picture in the ref. above to No. 1 of the "Celebrated Cloggers' Knives" illustration in http://ourfamilyatkinson.com/clogs/ And here are pictures of that same type of tool from three different Pinterest sources: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/477240891736986357/ -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 11 hrs (2016-04-27 22:43:15 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Have now seen a video of one being used in England, but for the outside, not the inside of the clog. Afraid I didn't note the reference. |
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