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\"boca y escoda\"

English translation: hammer-dressed

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Spanish term or phrase:\\\"boca y escoda\\\"
English translation:hammer-dressed
Entered by: Lucy Williams

15:11 Nov 13, 2015
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Architecture / Church architecture
Spanish term or phrase: \"boca y escoda\"
Para el interior de la media naranja se tenía que emplear la misma piedra, y para el exterior, arenisca, "sin que tenga salitre", de las canteras de Marieta o Elguea y cubierta de plomo.
El suelo con piedra de Anda o Ajarte, muy pulida, con una peana para el altar de piedra negra.
Los sillares tenían que ser labrados a "boca y escoda" y las pilastras "trinchadas".

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Lucy Williams
Spain
Local time: 13:43
hammer-dressed
Explanation:
This is for the whole phrase "a boca y escoda", which, as Taña has correctly suggested (I think), is being used in the sense of "a boca de escoda" (it may be a simple mistake, misremembering the phrase, of perhaps it's a variant).

"Escoda" is a stonemason's hammer, which is rather like a chisel with a handle:
http://www.artifexbalear.org/escodra.htm

So it's used for cutting stone. It's no use for hitting a chisel, and there's no reason to think a chisel is involved here.

"a boca de escoda
Locución adverbial que designa una técnica de trabajo propia de los canteros, para cuya comprensión traigo a colación estas dos definiciones del DRAE correspondientes, respectivamente, a boca 'en algunas herramientas de percusión, como martillo, maceta, martellina, etc., cada una de las caras destinadas a golpear' (s.v., 3.a ac.) y a escoda 'instrumento de hierro, a manera de martillo, con corte en ambos lados, enastado en un mango, para labrar piedras y picar paredes'."
http://ifc.dpz.es/recursos/publicaciones/09/23/24frago.pdf

So it means with the cutting edge of a stonemason's hammer. The corresponding phrase in English is "hammer-dressed":

"Hammer-dressed
a. 1. Having the surface roughly shaped or faced with the stonecutter's hammer; - said of building stone."
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hammer-dressed

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-11-13 22:59:46 GMT)
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In fact, looking more closely at the ST, this covers the whole of "labrados a boca y escoda".
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Charles Davis
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Local time: 13:43
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4 +4hammer-dressed
Charles Davis
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
hammer and chisel


Explanation:
Boca has too many meanings to list here, and anyway I'm just guessing.
Escoda -> bush hammer, broad chisel, edged hammer, granulating hammer and claw hammer are all definitions offered by Beigbeder Technical Dictionary.


neilmac
Spain
Local time: 13:43
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
hammer-dressed


Explanation:
This is for the whole phrase "a boca y escoda", which, as Taña has correctly suggested (I think), is being used in the sense of "a boca de escoda" (it may be a simple mistake, misremembering the phrase, of perhaps it's a variant).

"Escoda" is a stonemason's hammer, which is rather like a chisel with a handle:
http://www.artifexbalear.org/escodra.htm

So it's used for cutting stone. It's no use for hitting a chisel, and there's no reason to think a chisel is involved here.

"a boca de escoda
Locución adverbial que designa una técnica de trabajo propia de los canteros, para cuya comprensión traigo a colación estas dos definiciones del DRAE correspondientes, respectivamente, a boca 'en algunas herramientas de percusión, como martillo, maceta, martellina, etc., cada una de las caras destinadas a golpear' (s.v., 3.a ac.) y a escoda 'instrumento de hierro, a manera de martillo, con corte en ambos lados, enastado en un mango, para labrar piedras y picar paredes'."
http://ifc.dpz.es/recursos/publicaciones/09/23/24frago.pdf

So it means with the cutting edge of a stonemason's hammer. The corresponding phrase in English is "hammer-dressed":

"Hammer-dressed
a. 1. Having the surface roughly shaped or faced with the stonecutter's hammer; - said of building stone."
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hammer-dressed

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Note added at 7 hrs (2015-11-13 22:59:46 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

In fact, looking more closely at the ST, this covers the whole of "labrados a boca y escoda".

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 13:43
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Native speaker of: English
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  neilmac: While I was getting hammered, Charles nails it yet again... :)
10 hrs
  -> But I can't compete with the punmaster extraordinaire, and won't try! Thanks very much, Neil, and have a good weekend :)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
11 hrs
  -> Many thanks, Muriel :)
agree  philgoddard: Hit it right on the head!
1 day 1 hr
  -> Thanks a lot, Phil :)
agree  Thomas Walker: The escoda is in a way similar to the adze, which is a hammery/hatchety tool used to carve wood, also without a chisel.
2 days 20 hrs
  -> That's true. Thanks, Tom!
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Reference comments


24 mins peer agreement (net): +2
Reference

Reference information:
"boca de escoda"? instead of "boca y escoda" ??

http://ojs.upv.es/index.php/EGA/article/viewFile/1687/1944
Han de ser labradas
las piedras de **boca de escoda**;
ha de ser tan buena que no se parezca a
ningún golpe de escoda, ni roza alguna,
sino todo liso, que parezca bruñido y
todas las juntas de los lechos han de ser
sin desportilladura ninguna, y tan delgadas
como un real de a cuatro, y las
juntas de arriba abajo, han de ser tan
delgadas como un real de a dos.” 13


[…] Stones must be carved with **stonecuttre’s
hammer,** without grooves, as polished, and
joints must avoid chipping, being so thin as a
coin’s edge.” 13

Escoda - significado de escoda diccionario
http://es.thefreedictionary.com/escoda
Significado de escoda diccionario. traducir escoda significado escoda traducción de escoda Sinónimos de escoda, antónimos de ... SF → stonecutter's hammer.
escoda s. f. Herramienta parecida al martillo con punta o corte en ambos lados que se usa para labrar piedras y picar paredes.
Diccionario Manual de la Lengua Española Vox. © 2007 Larousse Editorial, S.L.

escoda translation English | Spanish dictionary | Reverso
dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/escoda
escoda. sf stonecutter's hammer. Translation Spanish - English Collins ... desarrollo histórico, económico y científico que se escode detrás de la fragancia.

Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 104

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  philgoddard: I think it must mean hammer and chisel - I don't think you can carve things with just a hammer.
10 mins
  -> Thanks. Perhaps like this (picture) http://morgridgefamilyfoundation.org/why-we-need-to-build-ca...
agree  Charles Davis: I don't think Phil's seen a picture of a stonemason's hammer.
7 hrs
  -> Thanks for clarifying it. I had my doubts about the chisel too. Un abrazo.
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