classe éclatée

English translation: class with an informal layout / class split up informally

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French term or phrase:classe éclatée
English translation:class with an informal layout / class split up informally
Entered by: Wyley Powell

17:15 Nov 6, 2015
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy
French term or phrase: classe éclatée
The document is a video script about an unconventional classroom:

"La classe ne ressemble pas à l’image typique ou stéréotypique qu’on se fait d’une classe. C’est-à-dire qu’il n’y a pas les
petits bancs tout en rangées …tout en quadrilatères, bien organisés. La classe est ***éclatée*** et j’aime beaucoup…parce que ça respecte un peu l’univers d’exploration d’un enfant."

TIA
Wyley Powell
Canada
Local time: 10:15
class with an informal layout / class split up informally
Explanation:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1135791856
Ciaran Sugrue - 2002 - ‎Education
10/9/'90) Classroom Helen's classroom had an informal layout which made it difficult to say with certainty that it had a particular focal point.



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Classroom, rather than "class".
Selected response from:

B D Finch
France
Local time: 16:15
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +5class with an informal layout / class split up informally
B D Finch
4 +3the class is all broken up
Barbara Cochran, MFA
4 +1split class
liz askew
4the classroom is messy/disorganized/chaotic
Francois Boye
4the class is scattered around the room
Melanie Kathan
4a starburst
Graeme Jones


  

Answers


29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
the class is all broken up


Explanation:
Not well organized in its physical layout.

Référence: Collins Robert

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Note added at 30 mins (2015-11-06 17:46:20 GMT)
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"the classroom", I meant to say.

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 10:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 27

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
12 mins
  -> Thanks, philgoddard.

agree  Verginia Ophof
9 hrs
  -> Thanks, Verginia.

neutral  Jennifer White: The classroom is, in fact, differently organized but with a definite plan./There must be some kind of layout for primary children, not necessarily in formal rows./ Classrooms for toddlers???!
17 hrs
  -> Where does it say that it is organized, with a definite plan?/You're assuming an awful lot (that there must be some kind of layout for PRIMARY SCHOOL-AGE CHILDREN). There is often none in the case of American preschool classrooms for toddlers.

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Classroom is certainly the right word, a correction the French would do well to correct, although in context, it is understood. However, "broken up" suggests, damage, something unintentional, unwanted.//It's what you mean but unfortunately not conveyed.
1 day 1 hr
  -> No, it just means that it is disorganized, and by design, I should add.

agree  GILLES MEUNIER
1 day 20 hrs
  -> Merci, GILOU.
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
split class


Explanation:
Split grade classes - Today's Parent
www.todaysparent.com/kids/school-age/split-grade-classes/
4 Aug 2009 - I was flattered the year my eldest son was assigned to a grade two/three split class. I was assured that because he was bright and motivated, ...

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from this discussion:

http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/horaires-décalés.8818...

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éclater - WordReference.com
www.wordreference.com/fren/éclater
Le nouveau directeur a éclaté notre service en trois nouveaux services. The new manager split our service into three new services. éclater viverbe intransitif: ...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:15
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 95

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ormiston: here maybe meant informally 'split into groups'
1 hr

neutral  B D Finch: A split class is a class that is split across years, it's not about classroom layout.
4 hrs

neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: it's not "split grade"...
17 hrs

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: I see the same problem with this as BD and Gallagy.
1 day 1 hr
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48 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the classroom is messy/disorganized/chaotic


Explanation:
Anything opposed to organization

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 10:15
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 47

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Victoria Britten: These adjectives are all rather negative, but the speaker continues with "...et j'aime beaucoup".
16 hrs

neutral  Jennifer White: not disorganized at all - just has a different layout.
16 hrs

neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: with Victoria and really don't know where you're getting this from?
17 hrs

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: I think this is a mistranslation in context.
1 day 1 hr
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
class with an informal layout / class split up informally


Explanation:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1135791856
Ciaran Sugrue - 2002 - ‎Education
10/9/'90) Classroom Helen's classroom had an informal layout which made it difficult to say with certainty that it had a particular focal point.



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Note added at 5 hrs (2015-11-06 22:44:22 GMT)
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Classroom, rather than "class".

B D Finch
France
Local time: 16:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 121
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jennifer White: Yes, I think this is the meaning here.
12 hrs
  -> Thanks Jennifer

agree  Yvonne Gallagher: Yes, this is the meaning...children's tables/desks not in formal rows but informally scattered around room. Nothing to do with disorganisation, just a non-standard layout//yes, the way it's been here as well for a while
12 hrs
  -> Thanks Gallagy. It's actually, not so much non-standard as non-traditional, as it has been quite usual for English primary schools to use informal classroom layouts since the 1970s..

neutral  Barbara Cochran, MFA: Don't think that this rendition captures the disorganized state of the room all that well.
13 hrs
  -> I don't think this is "disorganised", just split up and informally organised.

agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: This is spot on. It's to do with the structure and dynamics of communication. See Leavitt 1951. ;-) as applied to education. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_J._Leavitt
20 hrs
  -> Thanks Nikki

agree  katsy
2 days 11 hrs
  -> Thanks katsy

agree  Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
4 days
  -> Thanks Karen
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2 days 21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the class is scattered around the room


Explanation:
Meaning not all clumped together or in formal rows

Melanie Kathan
Canada
Local time: 10:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 9
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3 days 22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
a starburst


Explanation:
It gives the impression of the result of a kind of explosion - so it's not just random layout as such. Starburst (or star-burst) keeps the image continued in the rest of the phrase with "l'univers ..."

Example sentence(s):
  • star-burst n. (a) an explosion of a star or stars, or an explosion producing an appearance of stars

    Reference: http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/189081#eid20853406
Graeme Jones
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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