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plan interne

English translation: internal structure

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French term or phrase:plan interne
English translation:internal structure
Entered by: Louise Etheridge

17:03 Oct 12, 2015
French to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / Knee surgery
French term or phrase: plan interne
This term appears twice in the document I'm translating, which is the transcription of a podcast about knee injuries. It appears as follows:

'Donc il est intéressant de les revoir de façon rapprochée pour revérifier que les tests cliniques disparaissent et justifier la prolongation à six semaines, parce qu'il y a encore des douleurs à l'étirement du plan interne par exemple.'

And:

'On va pas le savoir forcément tout de suite parce qu'au-delà des six semaines on va vérifier qu'il y a plus de douleur au niveau du plan interne,'

I'm not sure whether 'plan interne' is a specific anatomical description or whether it's something more general, such as 'internally'.

The podcast focuses in particular on cruciate ligament injuries, if that helps.

Best wishes

Louise
Louise Etheridge
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:27
internal structure
Explanation:
In knee injuries we speak of external derangements and internal derangements.
Internal derangements include injuries to the cruciate ligaments and the menisci.
We can tear menisci but we do not stretch them, so in this context, the author is peaking specifically of the cruciate ligaments. I suppose he uses the term "plan interne" just for variety rather than repetitively use "cruciate ligaments".
In this context, "plan" is used in the sense of "structure" or "framework", not "plane".

Internal derangement of the knee (IDK), for the purposes of VAC , is a chronic disorder of the knee due to a torn, ruptured or deranged meniscus of the knee, or a partial or complete cruciate rupture, with or without injury to the capsular ligament of the knee, resulting in ongoing or intermittent signs and symptoms ...Dec 3, 2014
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Michael Barnett
Local time: 22:27
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Thanks again for your help Michael
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3internal structure
Michael Barnett
4(specific anatomical description ) internal plane (saggital/ transverse)
Drmanu49


  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(specific anatomical description ) internal plane (saggital/ transverse)


Explanation:
If it had been only internally the French would have been "SUR le plan interne"

]The Management of Soft Tissue Knee Injuries: Internal ...
www.acc.co.nz/PRD_EXT.../wcmz003523.pdf
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management of people with acute soft tissue injuries of the knee. The guideline was ... Internal Derangements .... absent pulses, foot drop, multiple plane laxity).
Knee Joint Anatomy - IDEA
www.ideafit.com/fitness-library/knee-joint-anatomy
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The tibiofemoral joint moves in the sagittal plane to flex and extend, and in the ... The iliotibial band (ITB) also helps support the knee to limit internal rotation of ...

Quadriceps femoris strength and sagittal-plane knee ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25115158
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de LM Thoma - ‎2014 - ‎Cité 1 fois - ‎Autres articles
Quadriceps femoris strength and sagittal-plane knee biomechanics during stair ... peak knee-flexion angle, peak internal knee-extension moment, and peak vertical ... ACDs in the knee who were eligible for surgical cartilage restoration and 10 ...

MRI for Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury: Overview, Anatomy
emedicine.medscape.com/article/400547-overview
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14 août 2015 - The anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) is the most commonly injured of the ... on accurate diagnosis of other coexisting knee internal derangements, ... delay surgery on patients with isolated ACL injuries until knee range of motion is optimized). ... Anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) anatomy in the sagittal plane.

Drmanu49
France
Local time: 04:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 5346
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks for your input Drmanu49. Yes, I see what you mean about 'SUR le plan interne' and I also had the feeling that something was missing to make that the meaning. Saying that, this is a transcript with all the language problems you get with that. So, I'll see what works out best. Thank you.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Denise DeVries: yes
2 hrs
  -> Thank you.
disagree  Michael Barnett: So which internal plane - saggital? Transverse? Coronal? And is the plane stretched? What does a streched plane feel like? How do you fix a stretched plane? Transform the space-time continuum?
4 hrs
  -> Internal Derangements is in my first ref. But OK for structure.
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
internal structure


Explanation:
In knee injuries we speak of external derangements and internal derangements.
Internal derangements include injuries to the cruciate ligaments and the menisci.
We can tear menisci but we do not stretch them, so in this context, the author is peaking specifically of the cruciate ligaments. I suppose he uses the term "plan interne" just for variety rather than repetitively use "cruciate ligaments".
In this context, "plan" is used in the sense of "structure" or "framework", not "plane".

Internal derangement of the knee (IDK), for the purposes of VAC , is a chronic disorder of the knee due to a torn, ruptured or deranged meniscus of the knee, or a partial or complete cruciate rupture, with or without injury to the capsular ligament of the knee, resulting in ongoing or intermittent signs and symptoms ...Dec 3, 2014

Michael Barnett
Local time: 22:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 733
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Thanks again for your help Michael
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for your input Michael. Unfortunately because this is a transcript, a lot of the language is fairly hazy - sentences stopping and starting with the sloppy language you get when it's speech - which makes it especially difficult when the subject is medical. But I'll see what works out best. Thank you.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rachel Fell: nice to have a doctor around for such things :-)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Rachel. I think I was too harsh with Emmanuel, but when wrong translations start getting approval, I freak.
agree  Michael Lotz
3 hrs
  -> Thanks and regards Michael!
agree  liz askew: This makes a lot more sense, mine was a bit far-fetched:)
10 hrs
  -> Thanks Liz.
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