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grand cadre

English translation: lower arm

12:17 Aug 30, 2015
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Mechanics / Mech Engineering
French term or phrase: grand cadre
This is from a patent regarding a pantograph for railway vehicles:

Un pantographe comporte de manière classique une partie inférieure, connue de l'homme du métier sous la désignation de grand cadre, dont la base est reliée au toit de la motrice et une partie supérieure, connue de l'homme du métier sous la désignation d'archet...

And then later:

Le cadre du pantographe est articulé et comporte une partie inférieure couramment désigné "grand cadre" et une partie supérieure couramment désignée "petit cadre". Un tel cadre de pantographe est classique et connu de l'homme du métier.

I don't know what 'petit cadre' is either, but I'll start with 'grand cadre' first!

The claims for this translation were given to me in English; elsewhere, 'cadre' is translated as 'framework' so maybe just a literal translation is needed but I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance!
Claire Knell
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:21
English translation:lower arm
Explanation:
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claude-andrew
France
Local time: 10:21
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Summary of answers provided
4lower arm
claude-andrew
4base frame
kashew
2large frame
Marco Solinas
Summary of reference entries provided
Arms
claude-andrew

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
large frame


Explanation:
This appears to be a translation of your document: http://www.google.com/patents/EP2699445B1?cl=en

I have no idea whether it is a good translation. However, the term "large frame" occurs elsewhere with reference to pantographs.

Marco Solinas
Local time: 01:21
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 42

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AbrahamS: This is an automatic translation of a French document ("a support carrying cable which is suspended the contact wire 3 by means of pendulums."). All the references to "large frame" in the proper context that I could find were of that type.
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
lower arm


Explanation:
See references

claude-andrew
France
Local time: 10:21
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2 days 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
base frame


Explanation:
http://www.mstelektroteknik.com/Kataloglar/Katalog_Stemmann_...
p11 for labelled diagram

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Note added at 2 jours1 heure (2015-09-01 13:58:23 GMT)
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with adjustment to text that follows (eliminate "dont la base")

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Note added at 2 jours1 heure (2015-09-01 14:06:51 GMT)
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Yes, there are arms, but one can consider them components/attachments to the base and upper frames.

kashew
France
Local time: 10:21
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Reference comments


52 mins peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: Arms

Reference information:
I gather that in modern pantographs the 2 sections are referred to as "arms" (they more closely resemble arms than frames).

2nd ref.: See page 009 "lower arm" and "upper arm".

Example sentence(s):
  • Pantographs may have either a single or a double arm. Double-arm pantographs are usually heavier, requiring more power to raise and lower, but may also be more fault-tolerant.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph_(transport)
    Reference: http://www.mstelektroteknik.com/Kataloglar/Katalog_Stemmann_...
claude-andrew
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 19

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Ariane Leverett: I agree, and have found links to support the use of "arms" in this context. https://www.peter.com.au/articles/pantograph.html
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agree  mchd
17 hrs
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agree  Sally ALLCARD: Union Internationale des Chemins de fer use 'arm' for cadre in their lexicon
19 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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