hors état

English translation: unfit /unfit for purpose

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French term or phrase:hors état
English translation:unfit /unfit for purpose
Entered by: B D Finch

09:32 Aug 14, 2015
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Transport / Transportation / Shipping / Maritime survey report - container ship
French term or phrase: hors état
This comes at the end of a description of cell guide fixings which are said to be:


A ce niveau, la superstructure avant de maintien des glissières est, dans sa partie inférieure, fortement corrodée, hors état.

Les superstructures métalliques de fixation des glissières sont fortement corrodées, hors état.


I have been able to find a direct translation in a similar context and would be tempted to go with 'unsound'. Anyone out there come across this before?
All help gratefully received.
Jane Phillips
France
Local time: 13:46
unfit
Explanation:
standard-club.com/media/23964/15056CargoJan2011Bulletinv06.pdfface " ... loose bulkhead or tank top rust scale increased by damage from. • grabs or cargo .... cargo, and a day later, the grain surveyor again found the holds unfit to carry cargo."

www.ems-shipsupply.com/data/...ship...hold.../ArtcileStromm... shipping industry is cleaning holds between ... The holds are declared unfit for loading if any residue ...
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 13:46
Grading comment
Many thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +6unfit
B D Finch
4 +1in poor condition
Ana Vozone
4unserviceable
claude-andrew
4unsuited/unsuitable for use
Ariane Leverett


Discussion entries: 2





  

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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
unfit


Explanation:
standard-club.com/media/23964/15056CargoJan2011Bulletinv06.pdfface " ... loose bulkhead or tank top rust scale increased by damage from. • grabs or cargo .... cargo, and a day later, the grain surveyor again found the holds unfit to carry cargo."

www.ems-shipsupply.com/data/...ship...hold.../ArtcileStromm... shipping industry is cleaning holds between ... The holds are declared unfit for loading if any residue ...

B D Finch
France
Local time: 13:46
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 144
Grading comment
Many thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
35 mins
  -> Thanks Phil

agree  writeaway: many possibilities. this is just one of them.
53 mins
  -> Thanks writeaway.

agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Or even, "unfit for their purpose", if the sentence feels better with that tagged on at the end.//Depending on how one choses to fit it into the sentence. Covers the nature of the condition and the fact it cannot be used.
1 hr
  -> Thanks Nikki. The standard phrase is "unfit for purpose".

agree  claude-andrew: more or less the same meaning as my answer
6 hrs
  -> Thanks claude-andrew

agree  Ariane Leverett: I think you could even use an "unfit state"
10 hrs
  -> Thanks Ariane. See Nikki's Discussion comment.

agree  MatthewLaSon
2 days 7 hrs
  -> Thanks Matthew
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
in poor condition


Explanation:
Another suggestion.

https://www.google.pt/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&es...

Ana Vozone
Local time: 12:46
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: This is a 75% agree, as an element can be in poor condition and yet still usable.
1 day 35 mins

agree  loveli307
1 day 49 mins
  -> Many thanks, loveli307!
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
unserviceable


Explanation:
See web ref.


    Reference: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/fr/definition/anglais_amer...
claude-andrew
France
Local time: 13:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 10
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
unsuited/unsuitable for use


Explanation:
This is simply an alternative to B D Finch's answer with a similar meaning and contextual fit.

Ariane Leverett
Belgium
Local time: 13:46
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Unsuited/unsuitable = not the correct choice for a particular purpose. In other words, an element can be in perfect condition, yet unsuited/-able. In the original, the element is in poor condition. This feature is not covneyed in this suggestion.
14 hrs
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