estado de abandono

01:02 Jul 14, 2015 

I received a message from José who was concerned about comments regarding native speakers. Let me state for the record that I value the contributions of all comers. In this case, it was helpful for me that the native speakers of the source (not target) language confirmed my understanding of the term. Please, let's all be careful not to use the expression "native speaker" as a put-down of those who are not. We can all learn from each other. As for people claiming the status, this is not the forum for judging whether or not the claim is accurate.

00:35 Jul 14, 2015 

I think it's a Pro question because I've been translating for over 40 years and I was not aware that "abandono" could mean 'neglect', 'lack of care' - i.e., abandoned in terms of care but still physically occupied.

00:25 Jul 14, 2015 

Exactly. This is a subtlety that I wasn't aware of until now. This conclusion seems to be confirmed by the fact that 3 non-native speakers of English intuitively suggested terms that had to do with neglect rather than physically abandoning the site.

22:49 Jul 13, 2015 

In Portuguese and I suppose in Spanish too, you can have both kinds of "abandono"(stopping to care for a place and leaving it physically) together or separately. But in English it seems for me from your query, that to characterize the "state of abandonment" of a place people must leave it physically.

22:04 Jul 13, 2015 

Here's my take on it: I think the difference is that 'abandoned' in English means that people have abandoned it physically (=no one at home any more), whereas in Portuguese 'abandono' only means that they have stopped caring for it. It seems obvious now that I spell this out.

14:43 Jul 13, 2015 

How about this? "abandono" simply refers to abandonment by the owners/previous tenants. Not a 3-word false friend at all.
In my eyes, having thought about for a bit, there are loads of viable options which is why I chose non-pro.
"It APPEARS that this HQ has been abandoned" - literal works 'cos the source uses "dar la impression" (it doesn't unilaterally state that it has been abandoned).
"The building appears to be in a state of disrepair / neglect / disuse" plus many more synonyms.

With respect to Danik's comment "For example, here in Brazil we have homeless people, who actually live in buildings "em estado abandonado"." - the buildings have been abandoned by their owners and/or previous occupants....that's all it means (as it states in the freedict ref), abandoned by parties who would pay for and take charge of its upkeep. I don't see the false friend. Nor a specialised term or difficult source construction, thus it can be solved with an ordinary dictionary, so why not non-pro?

13:02 Jul 13, 2015 

Yes.
"Estado de abandono" here solely= Building in a "state of neglect, disrepair, etc."
The meaning is not quite the same as in Portuguese or Spanish. For example, here in Brazil we have homeless people, who actually live in buildings "em estado abandonado".
Sorry, I don´t want to seem insistent, but I think this difference is the reason for this thread.

12:29 Jul 13, 2015 

I assume we agree. This particular building is in active use.

10:42 Jul 13, 2015 

The English term "abandonment" is not the synonym of neglect as may be the case with the Spanish or Portuguese term "abandonado". Abandoning a building may include neglect of it but the building must also be empty.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/abandonment

09:51 Jul 13, 2015 

I'm now at the end of the document and have come to a recommendation to allocate funds to refurbish the building.

09:47 Jul 13, 2015 

I wonder why you think it's non-Pro when so many ideas have been proposed, and one person has said it's a 'false friend'?