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dont (le droit) se nourrit

English translation: which (the law) draws upon / upon which the law draws

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French term or phrase:dont (le droit) se nourrit
English translation:which (the law) draws upon / upon which the law draws
Entered by: MoiraB

13:56 May 31, 2015
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters / learning outcomes
French term or phrase: dont (le droit) se nourrit
This is a text about the learning outcomes of various university degree courses (Belgian), in this case a Bachelor's degree in Law. Can't come up with a natural-sounding way to phrase this introductory bit:

L’étudiant inscrit au programme de bachelier en droit ambitionne d’acquérir une formation de base aux savoirs, méthodes et raisonnements essentiels de la science du droit, tout en s’ouvrant aux autres disciplines des sciences humaines **dont le droit se nourrit**.

Currently have "that feed into law"; possibly "that engage with law". Not completely happy with either of those so any help welcome!
MoiraB
France
Local time: 08:03
which (the law) draws upon / upon which the law draws
Explanation:
If you don't like version 1 because it ends in a preposition, version 2 only offends (me) through assonance.

The Finch referred to in the first ref. I found is definitely not me!

https://lra.le.ac.uk/bitstream/2381/28106/5/Author copy.pdf
by PJ Carter - ‎2011 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articles
In 1991 Finch suggested that ―social policy as a discipline in general has paid ... than have the social science disciplines upon which it draws‖ (Finch 1991).

www.canopycanopycanopy.com/.../a-note-on-common-minds-82212... Nov 2012 - This nascent discipline cannibalized psychology, linguistics, and sociology, .... of science and the humanities upon which the discipline draws.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-05-31 16:49:21 GMT)
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www.jstor.org/stable/2854329
chology, Berger falls prey to error in every discipline upon which she draws. Failing to understand oneiric tradition, she assumes that the dream system relevant ...
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 08:03
Grading comment
Yes, sounds a lot better than my feeble efforts! Thanks, everyone.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5which (the law) draws upon / upon which the law draws
B D Finch
3 +1which inspire Law
Verginia Ophof
3Get inspired from/nurtured by
Chakib Roula
3 -1from which/thanks to which (law) develops
katsy
2 -1from which (the discipline of) law is developed
Barbara Cochran, MFA
3 -2derived from
Ghyslaine LE NAGARD


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Get inspired from/nurtured by


Explanation:
Suggestion.

Chakib Roula
Algeria
Local time: 07:03
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
from which (the discipline of) law is developed


Explanation:
That is my interpretation.

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 02:03
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mchd
50 mins
  -> Merci, mchd.
disagree  Daryo: that would mean that law wouldn't exist without these other disciplines - not what is said in the ST
5 hrs
  -> Disagree with your "disagree". Law couldn't exist as a highly evolved institution without the human sciences as a springboard.
disagree  AllegroTrans: "nourrit" to "developed from" is an over-translation as well as being untrue for law
6 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
which inspire Law


Explanation:
suggestion


    Reference: http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investig...
Verginia Ophof
Belize
Local time: 00:03
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 53

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
2 hrs
  -> Thank you AllegroTrans !!
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
from which/thanks to which (law) develops


Explanation:
based on this definition of "nourrir"
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/nourrir/verbe
B − Au fig. Qqn/qqc. nourrit qqn/qqc.
1. Qqn/qqc. nourrit qqc.Développer quelque chose en lui fournissant les ressources nécessaires. (...)
La tradition inaugurée par Plotin, dont l'action sur saint Augustin fut si profonde, n'est pas éteinte! C'est elle qui avant de peser sur les siècles romans, nourrit l'art byzantin (Huyghe,Dialog. avec visible, 1955, p.132).

katsy
Local time: 08:03
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: Law does not develop from other disciplines
19 hrs
  -> I take your point AllegroTrans :-)
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
derived from


Explanation:
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Note added at 39 mins (2015-05-31 14:35:58 GMT)
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Yes exactly. Sorry I was in a rush !

Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
New Caledonia
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: I assume you mean "human science disciplines from which law is derived" rather than "human science disciplines derived from law", which would seem to be diametrically opposed to Barbara and katsy's interpretation?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: that would mean that law wouldn't exist without these other disciplines - not what is said in the ST
5 hrs
disagree  AllegroTrans: Law does not derive from other disciplines, but I concede it can be influenced by them
6 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
which (the law) draws upon / upon which the law draws


Explanation:
If you don't like version 1 because it ends in a preposition, version 2 only offends (me) through assonance.

The Finch referred to in the first ref. I found is definitely not me!

https://lra.le.ac.uk/bitstream/2381/28106/5/Author copy.pdf
by PJ Carter - ‎2011 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articles
In 1991 Finch suggested that ―social policy as a discipline in general has paid ... than have the social science disciplines upon which it draws‖ (Finch 1991).

www.canopycanopycanopy.com/.../a-note-on-common-minds-82212... Nov 2012 - This nascent discipline cannibalized psychology, linguistics, and sociology, .... of science and the humanities upon which the discipline draws.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 hrs (2015-05-31 16:49:21 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

www.jstor.org/stable/2854329
chology, Berger falls prey to error in every discipline upon which she draws. Failing to understand oneiric tradition, she assumes that the dream system relevant ...

B D Finch
France
Local time: 08:03
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 136
Grading comment
Yes, sounds a lot better than my feeble efforts! Thanks, everyone.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: yes, this avoids the incorrect notion that law develops from other disciplines, which it doesn't, it merely draws on them, hence "nourrit"
3 mins
  -> Thanks AT. Exactly.
agree  Daryo
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Daryo
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
4 hrs
  -> Thanks Gallagy
agree  Jean-Claude Gouin
9 hrs
  -> Thanks
agree  Yolanda Broad: Nice!
4 days
  -> Thanks Yolanda
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