effet brûlot

English translation: fire starter

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French term or phrase:	effet brûlot
English translation:	fire starter
Entered by:	Louisa Tchaicha

05:42 Apr 18, 2015

French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Aerospace / Aviation / Space / étanchéité aux flammes

French term or phrase: effet brûlot

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"...la gaine comprend, par-dessus la couche ininflammable, une couche d'étanchéité anti-brûlot destinée à empêcher avant un incendie la pénétration de combustibles issus de l'environnement extérieur à travers la gaine.
Ainsi, la gaine est protégée contre un effet brûlot. L'effet brûlot peut survenir lorsque des combustibles issus de l'environnement extérieur, comme des graisses ou des huiles, après avoir pu pénétrer à travers une gaine et, s'être ainsi accumulés dans des couches intérieures de la gaine, alimentent le feu et provoquent en conséquence une combustion rapide de ces couches intérieures lors d'un incendie."

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fire starter

Explanation:
The problem here is the infiltration of highly combustible materials (oils and grease) that can build up in the structure so that if there is a source of ignition, they will catch fire and intensify the combustion. This is the idea of a fire starter, used to get a fire going in a fireplace.

The usual English translation for "Brulôt" is Fire ship, a ship loaded with explosives which was sent into the midst of an enemy fleet to spread fire amongst their ships.

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merlrennes
Local time: 08:01

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Summary of answers provided

fire starter

merlrennes

4 -1

puncturing

Chris Maddux

firebrand effect

B D Finch

tracer-bullet effect

chris collister

Discussion entries: 8

chris collister

France

09:31 Apr 20, 2015

It seems to me that almost any one to one translation into EN of the noun "brûlot" is going to sound odd: firebrands, fireships, flaming arrows, tracer bullets, firelighters and the like. A reworking of the sentence which preserves the essential meaning seems the correct way to go.

Anca Florescu-Mitchell

France

19:40 Apr 19, 2015

A firebrand is something that spreads fire as in burning wood in a forest fire. The "effet brulôt" is where there is a buildup of a very flammable substance which produces an acceleration of combustion, as in a "fire starter" used for getting coal or wood fires going in a hearth or the charcoal in a barbecue. It is a hydrocarbon based material.

B D Finch

France

flammable and combustible

19:04 Apr 19, 2015

This seems almost the wrong way round. Flammable means having a flashpoint below 37.8°C (100°F), while combustible means having a flashpoint below 60 °C (140 °F). So, something that is non-flammable is being protected against infiltration by combustible grease or oil that ignites at a higher temperature. Am I missing something? or is there an error in use of the term "ininflammable"?

Chris Maddux

United States

"Fire starter"

09:47 Apr 18, 2015

I guess where I am getting lost is in your idea of this "Fire Starter" effect you are talking about, because I see nothing of it in my searches and research into this field.

merlrennes

09:19 Apr 18, 2015

Yes, there is a leak-proof layer that prevents combustibles entering as they cause cause the "fire-starter" effect

Chris Maddux

United States

09:12 Apr 18, 2015

So you are saying in this duct, it is an anti-fire starter layer that prevents the fire starter effect?

merlrennes

Effet Brulôt

09:05 Apr 18, 2015

The question asked is: How do you translate "Effet Brulôt"? The gaine is a duct and there is an "anti-brulôt" layer so as to prevent the "Effet Brulot"

Chris Maddux

United States

Gaine?

08:45 Apr 18, 2015

Maybe I am misreading this but what are you seeing gaine as?

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fire starter

merlrennes
Local time: 08:01
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Grading comment

Thank you all for helping me try to figure this out!

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

puncturing

Explanation:
anti-brûlot -anti puncture

It is pretty much the same as penetration, but the line has become punctured and is leaking fuel into inner layers and becoming highly combustable.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2015-04-18 08:40:08 GMT)
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https://www.google.com/#q=punctured gas line

this is what I am reading from this translation....

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Note added at 3 hrs (2015-04-18 09:39:22 GMT)
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If anything the first anti-brûlot could also be: flame retardant,

the second effect brulot could also possibly be combustion.

I feel like it is missing something in between that would better describe exactly what is happening to this duct or gas line as I am viewing it from this small excerpt, because it goes from having no issues with fire to just being on fire from no outside source.

brouiller: to trouble

brûlot - http://www.myetymology.com/french/brûlot.html similar to bruler.

Now using the wiki page, http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/brûlot#French it could be "scathing" to me scathing is a deep cutting, scorching, sharp, caustic issue.

If anything I can see puncturing working in both instances as well. I think this is going to be up to the asker to decide.

Chris Maddux
United States
Local time: 23:01
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you

7 hrs confidence:

tracer-bullet effect

Explanation:
Maybe the whole thing should be completely paraphrased avoiding the noun "brûlot" completely (it can also mean a fire-arrow), but getting across the idea that this barrier (an intumescent layer?) is intended to prevent incendescent debris from starting fresh fires by puncture or penetration.
However I offer "tracer bullet" as a plausible alternative, ie something which both penetrates and ignites (albeit intentionally).

chris collister
France
Local time: 08:01
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 110

1 day 13 hrs confidence:

firebrand effect

Explanation:
A firebrand is burning material that spreads fire.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 08:01
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 50

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