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superar

English translation: supersede

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Portuguese term or phrase:superar
English translation:supersede
Entered by: Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida

07:30 Nov 29, 2014
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / philosophy/Marxism
Portuguese term or phrase: superar
This word is used frequently in a text I am translating about Marxist propositions about society and how they xxxxxxx earlier ideas about how society and economics worked. I suggested " were better" but the author keeps wanting "overcome". One idea does not "overcome" another, does it? How about "supersede"? I seem to have a block on this one. Thank you.
Georgia Morg (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:07
supersede
Explanation:
Outra sugestão...

... have superseded earlier ideas about time and space, where time was measured according to the movement of bodies in space.
https://www.kent.ac.uk/english/materialmeanings/FINAL PROGRA...
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Portugal
Local time: 07:07
Grading comment
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4supersede
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
5 +1supplant
gninolps (X)
4 +1overcome
Ana Vozone
5overtake
Nick Taylor
5topple / oust / succeed
VERLOW WOGLO JR
4surpass
Edgar Potter
4outdate (former concepts/ideas)
Mario Freitas


Discussion entries: 8





  

Answers


10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
supplant


Explanation:
Sug.

Example sentence(s):
  • Being supplanted is something that often happens to ideas or ways of thinking.
  • Encouraging children's freedom has supplanted old ideas about children being better seen than heard.

    Reference: http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/supplant
gninolps (X)
Brazil
Local time: 03:07
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Portuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nick Taylor
1 hr
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
supersede


Explanation:
Outra sugestão...

... have superseded earlier ideas about time and space, where time was measured according to the movement of bodies in space.
https://www.kent.ac.uk/english/materialmeanings/FINAL PROGRA...

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Portugal
Local time: 07:07
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Muriel!
agree  R. Alex Jenkins: Supersede. I also like "supplant", but this type of replacement is often associated with force, scheming or strategy.
7 hrs
agree  Fernando Domeniconi
8 hrs
agree  Rodrigo Cayres: See on page 18: "Socialism would supersede them as the next and highest stage of the development." http://pt.calameo.com/read/002567856a412042de4dc
1 day 7 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
overcome


Explanation:
Mais uma sugestão.

Example sentence(s):
  • "We must overcome the notion that we must be regular... it robs you of the chance to be extraordinary and leads you to the mediocre."
  • How to overcome the idea that everybody else is perfect and able to do it all, unlike “me”:
Ana Vozone
Local time: 07:07
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Verginia Ophof
1 hr
  -> Obrigada, Verginia!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
surpass


Explanation:
I think "supplant" is good, but does not necessarily convey the idea of being better than what has been replaced. Hence my suggestion of surpass.

Edgar Potter
United States
Local time: 01:07
Native speaker of: English
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
overtake


Explanation:
overtake

Nick Taylor
Local time: 07:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
outdate (former concepts/ideas)


Explanation:
As "superar" here means make the former obsolete, outdated.

Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 03:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
topple / oust / succeed


Explanation:
desbancar, derrocar, derrubar, substituir, etc

Marxist propositions about society and how they "toppled/ousted/succeeded" earlier ideas about how society and economics worked.

VERLOW WOGLO JR
Brazil
Local time: 03:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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