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zone d’espace structurant

English translation: structuring area / space

11:27 Sep 28, 2014
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Real Estate / Belgian
French term or phrase: zone d’espace structurant
La lettre adressée au notaire instrumentant par la Commune de Woluwe-Saint-Pierre le .... 2014 stipule ce qui suit que le bien se situe en zone d’habitation et d’intérêt culturel, historique, esthétique ou d’embellissement et en zone d’espace structurant au plan régional d’affectation du sol.

the word structurant is rather confusing

THis concerns a deed of sale for a house in Brussels.
Andre de Vries
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:13
English translation:structuring area / space
Explanation:
Si c'est pour Bruxelles, il s'agit bien d'une région.

Ici vous avez le plan régional de développement
https://urbanisme.irisnet.be/lesreglesdujeu/les-plans-strate...

Les lignes rouges ou orange sont les espaces structurants à intégration environnementale renforcée, par exemple le Houba de Strooperlaan (a main street, une avenue désignée dans le doc ci-dessous comme "structuring area for reinforced integration" (voir texte au-dessus de la carte).

voir page 13 en bas de page
http://issuu.com/4citiesheysel/docs/paperkcap

ou page 14 en jaune avec la légende "structuring space" (Regional Land Use Plan)

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Si vous regardez la légende du plan (1er plan), vous verrez qu'il y a des espaces verts d'importance régionale et aussi des espaces structurants, comme cette avenue Houba de Strooper.

Si l'anglais est bizarre, c'est un peu normal puisque les urbanistes qui ont traduit leur doc en anglais (2e lien) ont cherché à coller au plus près aux concepts urbanistes tels qu'ils sont définis par la loi.

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Something like here:
https://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/natural/landscape/fraserbur...

"SITE & CONTEXT APPRAISAL AND DESIGN PRINCIPLES
Permeability
A study of the urban fabric of the wider area surrounding the MU9 site shows fine urban grain along the Newcastle Quayside area, *with a defined hierarchy of streets and spaces.*
**The main structuring spaces still seem to be based on historic alignments**, with permeable tissue that allows pedestrians to move about freely. The urban tissue on the Gateshead side of the Tyne appears fragmented, with some pockets of remaining fine grain, but generally the grain seems dominated by large footprint buildings set in large, undefined open spaces that generally discourage use by pedestrians. Some larger areas of continuous finer grain with clearly defined streets and spaces are planned for the Baltic Business Quarter."
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Jocelyne Cuenin
Germany
Local time: 21:13
Grading comment
A French native speaker suggested "of decisive importance to". Structuring doesn't sound English but may be OK.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1structuring area / space
Jocelyne Cuenin
4 +1an area that of structural importance to ...
B D Finch
3area as defined in the regional land management plan
AllegroTrans
Summary of reference entries provided
Explication
mchd

Discussion entries: 1





  

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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
area as defined in the regional land management plan


Explanation:
espace structurant : espace tel que déterminé dans le plan régional d’affectation du sol.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 251
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
structuring area / space


Explanation:
Si c'est pour Bruxelles, il s'agit bien d'une région.

Ici vous avez le plan régional de développement
https://urbanisme.irisnet.be/lesreglesdujeu/les-plans-strate...

Les lignes rouges ou orange sont les espaces structurants à intégration environnementale renforcée, par exemple le Houba de Strooperlaan (a main street, une avenue désignée dans le doc ci-dessous comme "structuring area for reinforced integration" (voir texte au-dessus de la carte).

voir page 13 en bas de page
http://issuu.com/4citiesheysel/docs/paperkcap

ou page 14 en jaune avec la légende "structuring space" (Regional Land Use Plan)

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Note added at 20 hrs (2014-09-29 07:47:47 GMT)
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Si vous regardez la légende du plan (1er plan), vous verrez qu'il y a des espaces verts d'importance régionale et aussi des espaces structurants, comme cette avenue Houba de Strooper.

Si l'anglais est bizarre, c'est un peu normal puisque les urbanistes qui ont traduit leur doc en anglais (2e lien) ont cherché à coller au plus près aux concepts urbanistes tels qu'ils sont définis par la loi.

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Note added at 20 hrs (2014-09-29 08:15:53 GMT)
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Something like here:
https://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/natural/landscape/fraserbur...

"SITE & CONTEXT APPRAISAL AND DESIGN PRINCIPLES
Permeability
A study of the urban fabric of the wider area surrounding the MU9 site shows fine urban grain along the Newcastle Quayside area, *with a defined hierarchy of streets and spaces.*
**The main structuring spaces still seem to be based on historic alignments**, with permeable tissue that allows pedestrians to move about freely. The urban tissue on the Gateshead side of the Tyne appears fragmented, with some pockets of remaining fine grain, but generally the grain seems dominated by large footprint buildings set in large, undefined open spaces that generally discourage use by pedestrians. Some larger areas of continuous finer grain with clearly defined streets and spaces are planned for the Baltic Business Quarter."

Jocelyne Cuenin
Germany
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
A French native speaker suggested "of decisive importance to". Structuring doesn't sound English but may be OK.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: yup. Woluwe Saint Pierre is one of the Brussels communes. Belgian terminology can be weird because it's often 'borrowed' from the other (main) national language. there may be a idiomatic way of putting it in English (this sounds so translated)
2 mins
  -> Thanks, writeaway, have a good day!
neutral  AllegroTrans: I have never heard of a "structuring area" // it is decidedly not understandable to an English speaker
3 hrs
  -> Understandable as it is the translation of a Belgian concept. Please have a look at my links.
neutral  Miranda Joubioux (X): I don't like using 'a structuring space' because I want to replace it with 'structural'
20 hrs
  -> ok!
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
an area that of structural importance to ...


Explanation:
You should see this as inseparable from the following part of the sentence:
" ... que le bien se situe ... et /en zone d’espace structurant au plan régional d’affectation du sol/.

The property is located in an area that is of structural importance to the Regional land use plan.

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Or that has structural significance for the Regional land use plan.

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Note added at 7 hrs (2014-09-28 18:40:15 GMT)
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Oops, omitted "is": an area that is of structural importance to ...


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In planning, a structural plan provides the broad, strategic planning policy for a region and I think that "stucturant" is used in the ST with this meaning.

www.peeblescommunity.org/community-council/consultations
The Scottish Borders Council Local Development Plan is drawn up in conformity with the over-arching strategic structural plan for the region - the South East ...

www.jstor.org/stable/20723179
surprising of all is the fact that this structural plan for the region is entitled: 'Parks, Playgrounds and Beaches for the Los Angeles Region'. To achieve that ...

I think that "of decisive importance to," as suggested by the Asker, means something quite different.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 21:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 271

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: it's Belgian French ...
39 mins
  -> Yes, but does the Belglish "structuring area for reinforced integration" cited in Petitavoine's explanation actually make sense? What does it mean?
agree  Miranda Joubioux (X): I like this way of dealing with it. It makes it sound English.
22 hrs
  -> Thanks Miranda
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Reference comments


3 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Explication

Reference information:
http://www.gamah.be/documentation/reglementations/reglement-...

Les objectifs de l’aménagement de la voirie sont les suivants :

1° L’aménagement de la voirie, de ses accès et de ses abords, en ce compris les plantations, l’éclairage et le mobilier urbain, tient compte des caractéristiques urbanistiques du quartier. Cet aménagement contribue à l’embellissement de la ville, en particulier lorsque l’on se situe dans un espace structurant ou une zone d’intérêt culturel, historique, esthétique ou d’embellissement.

mchd
France
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks - I looked at what it says - I am still not really clear what this means.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  writeaway
45 mins
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