lides do mar

20:31 Sep 14, 2014 

Gentes = people, Lides = troubles/labor.

19:58 Sep 14, 2014 

"gentes nas lides do
mar" fishing for a living

15:13 Sep 14, 2014 

does not refer to the persons, yet to their work and troubles at sea. IMO, labor or toil are the best fit.

10:55 Sep 14, 2014 

I don't think seafarers covers it, se the title of this group from my home town.
http://fsd.suffolk.gov.uk/kb5/suffolk/fsd/organisation.page?...

08:35 Sep 14, 2014 

But seafarers had their own
unmistakable identity. The outside world recognized them by their clothing and
use of language, and their occupation played a role in the establishment of social
relationships, such as marriage and guardianship. Seafarers did not live in sepa-
rate neighbourhoods in Maassluis, Schiedam and Ter Heijde. In Schiedam and Ter
Heijde there were special hostels that provided shelter for old seafarers. There are
no indications that seafarers regarded their occupational identity as more impor-
tant than citizenship of their town or village. They felt strong ties with the com-
munity in which they lived. They made bequests to the local parish and, if their
status allowed, they played an active role in local politics

08:31 Sep 14, 2014 

The number finally settled on only reinforcing the notoriously superstitious character of "seafarers" and their families.
http://www.travel-in-portugal.com/nazare

03:19 Sep 14, 2014 

Parece lógica a frase "labours of (the) sea" mas em inglês é quase desconhecida: "labo(u)rs of the sea" da apenas 9 resultados Google. Para expressar artes e ofícios relacionados ao mar, os termos a usar seriam:
"maritime trades" (52.100 resultados) ou "sea trades" (46.600).

00:12 Sep 14, 2014 

16. ("labours of sea"): http://archive.org/stream/persketchfor1914peru/persketchfor1...

00:12 Sep 14, 2014 

12. ("toils of sea"): https://www.google.pt/search?q="toils of sea"&biw=1280&bih=9...
13. ("toils of the sea"): https://www.google.pt/search?q="toils of sea"&biw=1280&bih=9...
14. ("toils of the sea"): http://watercraftjournal.com/loose-change-2014-sea-doo-spark...

15. ("works of the sea"): https://www.google.pt/search?q="works of the sea"&biw=1280&b...

00:04 Sep 14, 2014 

vd links:
1. ("lides"="faina"): http://www.infopedia.pt/lingua-portuguesa/lide
2. http://www.infopedia.pt/lingua-portuguesa/faina
3. ("faina de pesca"=fishing operation"): http://iate.europa.eu/SearchByQuery.do
4. ("faina do mar"): https://www.google.com/search?q="faina do mar"&es_sm=122&biw...
5. https://www.google.pt/search?q="labours of sea"&biw=1280&bih...
6. ("labours of sea fishermen"): http://www.freebookstoread.com/llth210_480.htm
7. ("labours of sea"): http://archive.org/stream/persketchfor1914peru/persketchfor1...
8. ("labours of the sea"): http://www.orkneyattractions.com/walk-stromness-heritage.htm...
9. ("labours of this sort"): http://singlemaltmonkey.com//?s=labour&search=Go
10. ("labour"): http://www.electricscotland.com/lifestyle/sea/chapter15.htm

11.("sea's toil"): http://books.google.pt/books?id=nRz4SETLpucC&pg=PT390&lpg=PT...

23:25 Sep 13, 2014 

Estive a ponderar e verificar as diferentes ocorrências e sentidos para esta expressão "lides do mar", e julgo que neste caso a tradução mais adequada é "labours of sea".
Neste texto, "lides do mar" refere-se apenas às tarefas normais das gentes do mar, que neste caso da Nazaré são os pescadores e as varinas. O texto refere-se apenas às "fainas do mar" (como a "faina agrícola"), não se está a referir à "labuta penosa e árdua do mar" ("toils") ou aos perigos/"trabalhos" do mar ("toils"/"works").
Verifiquei que em Inglês é mais ou menos assim que ocorre:
1. "labours of sea" tem a conotação mais neutra, mais apenas com as tarefas tipícas do mar, nomeadamente como as destes pescadores (remendar redes, puxar e preparar embarcações, trasfegar peixe, etc.)
2. "toils of (the) sea", "sea toils" está mais relacionado com a dureza/desgaste da vida do mar, com a "luta" dessa vida.
3. "works of the (the)sea" é a expressão que ocorre francamente mais, MAS é a uma expressão muito ambígua com diversos significados e sentidos diferentes ("perigos do mar", "ações do mar", "coisas do mar", "efeitos da erosão do mar", etc.)