Even

Russian translation: он же

13:19 Sep 8, 2014

English to Russian translations [PRO]
Religion

English term or phrase: Even

It will probably be allowed that in strictness of grammatical rule, rigidly applied, this should mean, "according to the grace of our God and Lord Jesus Christ," or, if we choose so to phrase it, "according to the grace of our God, even the Lord Jesus Christ."

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Russian translation:он же

Explanation:
Суть спора: при переводе с греческого союз "и" (and) использовать не очень хорошо, поскольку он может толковаться так, что Бог и Иисус - различные сущности, поэтому некоторые предлагают использовать even, чтобы снять этот вопрос

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AKhram
Local time: 03:02

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4 +1

самого

Vitals

3 +1

он же

AKhram

сиречь

Andrew Vdovin

а значит/ то есть

Alexander Lazar

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1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

even

он же

AKhram
Local time: 03:02
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 32

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

even самого

Explanation:
Если ориентироваться на Синодальный перевод, то это слово в основном не переводится (ср. три примера ниже).

Однако, если тут необходим нюанс усиления, а это усилительная частица, то я бы перевел как "по благодати Бога нашего, самого Господа Иисуса Христа."

Ср:

ROMANS 15:6
» 6 † That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

II CORINTHIANS 1:3
» 3 † ¶ Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

I THESSALONIANS 3:13
» 13 † To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

Кстати, Юрий, если Вам нужен словарь библейских выражений, только что специально глянул и там есть статья даже по этому словечку в Библейском контексте. Просто напишите мне в личку, поделюсь.

Vitals
Lithuania
Local time: 03:02
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Lithuanian
PRO pts in category: 11

12 hrs confidence:

even сиречь

Explanation:
Мне кажется, в этом контексте - то что надо.

Andrew Vdovin
Local time: 07:02
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 35

19 hrs confidence:

even а значит/ то есть

Explanation:
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Alexander Lazar
Ukraine
Local time: 03:02
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian
PRO pts in category: 28

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