die Seele baumeln lassen

08:35 Sep 7, 2014

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German to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Tourism & Travel / idiom

German term or phrase: die Seele baumeln lassen

Okay, okay, I know it's Sunday morning, but this is urgent. I have already looked up the term in several dictionaries and in the KOG and am not in the least satisfied.
The text I am translating is for a 5-Star hotel, where the guests have long left their "cares behind them' and have 'gotten away from it all' as well. Personally, this idiom is a bizarre.
So, dear colleagues, I am looking for something else within this context:

A PLACE FOR BODY, MIND & SOUL
Nach einem erlebnisreichen Urlaubstag können Sie in unserem Wellnessbereich die Seele baumeln lassen.

Tauchen Sie ein in unseren Pool, genießen Sie im prickelnden Wasser des Whirlpools den Blick auf die herrliche Bergkulisse XXX, erleben Sie Wohlfühlmomente in unserer SPA Lounge oder lassen Sie sich in unseren Saunen oder dem Aroma-Dampfbad verwöhnen.
Gönnen Sie sich eine Auszeit in stilvollem Ambiente mit ganzheitlichen Behandlungen und Produkten auf natürlicher Basis – einfach zurücklehnen und die Welt für einen Moment vergessen.

As you can see, terms such as - Grant yourself some time out.../pamper yourself... are already there - I'm looking for something REALLY DIFFERENT!
Hope you're awake and ready, I need to send this in this evening -
THANKS!!!!
Ramey

Ramey Rieger (X) KudoZ activity Questions: 93 (none open) (4 closed without grading) Answers: 2945 Germany
Local time: 06:33

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

enjoy the ultimate in relaxation (in our spa suite)

Karen Watkins

3 +2

to leave (all) one's cares behind/ take a break of everyday life

Jacek Konopka

3 +2

Let your worries go on holiday/take a break

Nick Brisland, BA (Hons)

3 +2

Let your spirit soar

Lancashireman

3 +1

you will find complete relaxation and tranquility

IngePreiss

3 +1

"Take your mind for a walk"

Kurt Kruger

3 +1

kick off your shoes and relax (and others)

Yorkshireman

let your soul get in sync

Usch Pilz

unwind your mind

Michael Martin, MA

relax and unwind

Vere Barzilai

4 -2

Bask in peaceful mindfulness

Donald Jacobson

Discussion entries: 16

Yorkshireman

Germany

@Helen

06:50 Sep 9, 2014

Thank you,
after 17 years, it's very hard without her. A very gentle cat, never scratched any of the family in either play or anger, even as a kitten.

Helen Shiner

United Kingdom

@Yorkshireman

23:36 Sep 8, 2014

What lovely pictures and such a beautiful cat!

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

So SORRY

10:07 Sep 8, 2014

my cat, Tuva, just gave me a very nasty look. Posy was a lovely lady!

Yorkshireman

Germany

Ouch!

10:02 Sep 8, 2014

Sorry, you couldn't have known - Posy, the world's most beautiful cat, passed away quite recently at the age of 17.

She certainly knew how to let her "Seele baumeln" (as most cats do).

Here she is: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DMS/Cats/Posy_0007_RT8_copy...
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DMS/Cats/Posy00121.jpg.html

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

Thank GOODNESS!!!!

09:53 Sep 8, 2014

So I guess you don't oft swing your cat, either?

Yorkshireman

Germany

@Ramey

09:46 Sep 8, 2014

How many of us have offices with room to swing a blowpipe?

I certainly don't.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

BEFORE there are curare darts heading my way

09:18 Sep 8, 2014

I have closed without grading because
a) there is no option to split points for the two suggestions I used
b) I'm a coward. If I annoy EVERYONE, I can raise my forcefield and hide. If I annoy only one or two colleagues, the feud could be permanent.

I have already posted my solution and the client is most delighted. I wish to thank you all for a MOST entertaining bit of linguistic theater as well as for the excellent suggestions that led to my final translation.
Let there be PEACE on Earth, and let it begin with me......

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

It's Monday morning

07:02 Sep 8, 2014

and all is well at kudoz! Sir Andrew, you have made my morning. I've done yoga, gone swimming and had a hearty laugh. Let it all hang out, relax, soar, let it all go, take a break, bask, be tranquil and simply disappear from the face of the planet. What more can I ask for?

Horst Huber (X)

United States

Was man auf gut Deutsch

00:45 Sep 8, 2014

baumeln läßt, sind Beine. Sollte den ENS etwas einfallen, was man bei ihnen mit Beinen macht, um sich zu entspannen, wäre ein entsprechender Hinweis hilfreich. Für meine Begriffe wären "soar" oder auch "swing" viel zu hochtrabend. Wir Kinder setzten uns an einen Bach und ließen die Beine baumeln. Und wenns kein "idiom" gibt, dann macht eines. Die Sprache ist doch nicht etwa eine tote Dokumentensprache?

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

My issue is

16:35 Sep 7, 2014

the heading aims for a holistic image, while the idiom encompasses just one aspect. I don't consider that holistic enough to warrant a limited translation. I'm happy with what I've got and the client is thrilled, but how do I distribute points?

Usch Pilz

soar

13:13 Sep 7, 2014

Hi!
Rise, shine and soar! Grading this question will be a feat all onto itself. I think I will take my soul for a walk now and check later ... ;)

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

Hi Michael

12:40 Sep 7, 2014

I don't consider the idiom in any way exotic, I consider the translations I have found too limiting for my context. Let's say I want to improvize on a theme.

Michael Martin, MA

United States

Nothing original or exclusive about the original

12:12 Sep 7, 2014

The German expression is fairly common - you're sure you want people to 'improve' on this German Redewendung, Ramey?

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

Hi there Franglish!

11:02 Sep 7, 2014

For once, short and snappy are not necessarily conducive to the overall impression. At the risk of colleagues clapping their hands to their heads/over their mouths in horror, I have used a much more wordy, but correlative to the heading translation. I'll be doing my own horror stunts when it comes to grading this one, as I've used two suggestions. Have a good Sunday!

A PLACE FOR BODY, MIND & SOUL
After an eventful day of vacation activities, take your mind for a walk, relax your body and let your spirit soar in our in-house spa.

franglish

Switzerland

Hi Ramey

10:41 Sep 7, 2014

I like 'take your mind for a walk', preceded by 'lay back and...'. It would have the merit of being short and as evocative as the German 'die Seele baumeln lassen'.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

ASKER

Two things I forgot to mention

09:04 Sep 7, 2014

1. The English variety is international
2. I am totally FREE to interpret, transcreate and play - it just has to be original and exclusive!

Answers

20 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

enjoy the ultimate in relaxation (in our spa suite)

Explanation:
Not especially different ... but may do the job!

Karen Watkins
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you Kwatkins, it's nice!

38 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

to leave (all) one's cares behind/ take a break of everyday life

Explanation:
Vielleicht dies als IDIOM

Jacek Konopka
Poland
Local time: 06:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Polish

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you JacekKonopka, but as I said, cares, worries, etc are inappropriate in this context.

41 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

you will find complete relaxation and tranquility

Explanation:
Our spa area offers you an ambience where after an eventful day you will find complete relaxation and tranquility.

Kindest regards

Inge

IngePreiss
Germany
Local time: 06:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German

Notes to answerer

Asker: Moin Inge! Also working Sundays, or just playing a bit of kudoz? Thank you for your suggestion! I have used tranquility further down in the text, but will reconsider. Thank GOODNESS for Roget's!!

23 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

Let your worries go on holiday/take a break

Explanation:
Just an idea, but if a person goes there for a holiday, maybe their worries/every day life will go on 'holiday' too if the place is so relaxing?

I'm not sure if this works though.

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hmmm In that case, I'm stumped. And yes, a little bit of work to do :(

Nick Brisland, BA (Hons)
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi Nick! Thank you, but as I said, words like worries, troubles, cares are inappropriate in this context. Enjoy your Sunday, or do you have to work, too?

Asker: I know what you mean ith stimped, we just have to EXPAND our concepts.... am confident we'll find the right one. Happy translating!

1 hr confidence:

let your soul get in sync

Explanation:
oder:
let your soul take a breather
oder:
let your soul soar

Na ja ...

Usch Pilz
Local time: 06:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi Usch, 'let your soul soar' is exactly what I have been toying with, in combination with Kurt's 'take your mind for a walk.' Since the heading is body, mind and soul, I see no reason why I shouldn't include all three in the text: A PLACE FOR BODY, MIND & SOUL After an eventful day of vacation activities, take your mind for a walk, relax your body and let your soul soar in our in-house spa.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Michael Martin, MA: in sinc with what?

5 hrs

-> Good question! Hmmm? The universe as such? The cosmic vibes? But seriously - since when does marketing speak make all that much sense? ;)

agree

Lancashireman: In sync with the cosmic vibes? Waydago!

12 hrs

-> Thanks Andrew! Can you feel them? Not on a Monday morning, I guess ... ;)

disagree

Donald Jacobson: In sync may make it in Britain buts makes no sense in a US context. You can get in touch with your soul because, religiously speaking, resides within you, and cosmic consciousness certainly has not taken root among most Americans.

13 hrs

-> Not sure I really understand what you are trying to tell me. But during my last visit to New Mexico and Southern Arizona, most people seemed to be in sync with SOMETHING ... ;)

24 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

"Take your mind for a walk"

Explanation:
Other people have translated the term more or less literally as "let your mind dangle", see: http://www.ferienwohnung-bodensee-blick.de/holiday-home.html...

However, "take your mind for a walk" from the realm of meditation is much more common in English and may be a fitting translation, too. Anyway, in a text like yours it doesn't matter whether you translate it correctly, it just has to sound good and sell.

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Why not "let your soul soak in our in-house spa", as what you normally do in a spa is "soak".

Example sentence(s):

"The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull" is here to take your mind for a walk while your body has a rest. Enjoy.

Kurt Kruger
Local time: 12:33
Native speaker of:

English,

German

Notes to answerer

Asker: Moin Kurt! Well, afternoon where you are. This is quite nice, I may be able to work it in. Let's see what else comes along, shall we? Thank you!

Asker: Hi Kurt! I've come up with something that I find quite good, but is a split between you and Usch- A PLACE FOR BODY, MIND & SOUL After an eventful day of vacation activities, take your mind for a walk, relax your body and let your soul soar in our in-house spa.

Asker: Sorry, but just how do you let your soul soak? Besides, they provide more than just a good soak.

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

Let your spirit soar

Explanation:
Idiomatic whilst remaining close to the original
Seele = soul, spirit, mind
baumeln = dangle, dance on air
http://dict.leo.org/#/search=baumeln&searchLoc=0&resultOrder...

Just one example of 88,000:
http://www.amazon.com/Your-Spirit-Soar-M-H-Clark/dp/19354146...

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Heres' another one:
Winner of the 2013 & 2014 World Luxury Spa Awards, Thornton Hall spa offers all you need to let your mind float free with a 20 metre pool, inside and outdoors hot tubs, a hemlock sauna, fibre optic steam room.
http://www.luxury-spa-breaks.com/spas/thornton-hall/spa-brea...

Let your mind be/float/run/flow/fly free

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 134

Notes to answerer

Asker: Oh Dear! Of course, let your SPIRIT soar. I just sent the text off, but will revise and resend. I remember using this once before, strange that it didn't turn up in the dics or KOG. Thank you SIr Andrew, you're a champ!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Usch Pilz: Your spirit - my soul ... Whatever it is - may it soar!//No worries! Great minds ...

2 hrs

-> Thanks and sorry. I have only just seen your version with 'soul' which you appear to have included as a sort of afterthought. No intention to pilfer - too much of that already on this site!

agree

Clive Phillips: Yes, our spiritual dimension.

3 hrs

-> Thanks, Clive. A dimension that we ignore at our peril.

disagree

Donald Jacobson: Sounds too hokey and New Age, like an LSD trip, out-of body- experience or worse, something paranormal

12 hrs

-> Look, Dame Ramey! The tit-for-tat disagree is alive and well.

neutral

Horst Huber (X): It seems "soar" and just letting go are not the same thing. The latter is what "baumeln lassen" conveys.

13 hrs

agree

Rebecca Garber: Morning, Andrew

1 day 2 hrs

-> Afternoon, Rebs

6 hrs confidence:

unwind your mind

Explanation:
"Following a vacation day packed with excitement, come unwind your mind in our spa/relaxation area."

Gets exactly the same idea across as the original without sounding too cheesy, in my opinion.

Also possible: restore/relax your mind

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http://www.ny1.com/content/81205/unwind-your-mind-at-tabacon...

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I like a good transcreational effort as much as the next person. But I also think that you can’t translate what isn’t there. Any creative effort should still reflect whatever the original message intended to say although you can do it from a completely different angle. If the original can be interpreted in a concrete and metaphorical way, by all means go for the wider scope. Here, however, our hands are tied. Still, die ‘Seele baumeln lassen’ is not really that bizarre. “Baumeln lassen’ has the clear connotation of putting something in a relaxed state e.g. ‘die Beine baumeln lassen’. You can run with that particular idea but not much beyond that. If you stray too far from it (however holistic the context) you’re making assumptions, in my opinion, and end up improving the original. That’s something a professional translator should only do in exceptional circumstances.

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 00:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in category: 46

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi Michael! Thank you for your effort, it's very much appreciated. My issue with ALL answers is that only ONE aspect of the header is mentioned!

Asker: Hi Michael! 'only in exceptional circumstances' yes, and these are exactly such! And just look how exceptional they are. I believe in marketing texts the reader must have an image he/she can clearly 'see' yet at the same time not resort to clichés. the true challenge is to be original, create unmistakeable images and reflect the level of intelligence or depth of pocketbook the target audience is assumed to have.

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

Bask in peaceful mindfulness

Explanation:
To use a current term from psychotherapy of relaxation

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Or Let your whole being suspend in total relaxation.

Donald Jacobson
United States
Local time: 23:33
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Also quite nice. Thank you Donald, and greetings to the Midwest!

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

kick off your shoes and relax (and others)

Explanation:
let your hair down
switch off your mind for a while
tune in to a cooler set of vibes
switch off the world outside
decelerate
lock out your troubles
just drift with the flow

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OK - Bath Festival, Hendrix at the Isle of Wight and lots of other festivals and concerts - does that make me a hippie?

With body and soul:

Relax - and let your soul take control of your body

With Bäumeln:

Let your body and soul hang loose

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Esoterics talk about things like

"Re-harmonizing the dichotomy of body and soul." (or "psyche and physis") or

"Realigning the balance of body and soul"

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 06:33
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks Yorkshireman! I just BET you're a hippie! But we've got to move on...what about the body and soul part?

1 day 4 hrs confidence:

relax and unwind

Explanation:
one more suggestion - short and sweet

Reference: http://www.visitmaldives.com/en/things-to-do/relax-unwind

Vere Barzilai
Israel
Local time: 07:33
Works in field
Native speaker of:

German

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you Vere Barzilai, much appreciated!

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