hierarcha (kościelny)

English translation: hierarch (pl. the hierarchy) / high official / high-ranking clergyman / high-ranking member of the clergy / senior clergyman

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Polish term or phrase:hierarcha (kościelny)
English translation:hierarch (pl. the hierarchy) / high official / high-ranking clergyman / high-ranking member of the clergy / senior clergyman
Entered by: mike23

06:55 Jun 2, 2014
Polish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Philosophy / tekst z teologii
Polish term or phrase: hierarcha (kościelny)
Należy do nich m.in. prowadzenie przez ks. Lemańskiego swojego bloga oraz wypowiadanie się w nim nie tylko bez oglądania się na zgodę kościelnych hierarchów, ale również w taki sposób, że stawia to pod wielkim znakiem zapytania ich autorytet i pozycję społeczną.
Jacek Siminski
Poland
Local time: 09:15
hierarch
Explanation:
hierarch

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in plural: hierarchy sounds better, e.g. the Hierarchy of the Church

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Other options: High-ranking clergyman, high-ranking member of the clergy, senior clergyman, high priest (e.g. in Judaism)

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Earlier today, Barack Obama offered the hierarchy “a compromise.” Under its terms, insurance companies offering healthcare coverage will be required to provide contraception and abortifacients...
http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/4551

O’Brien was the England’s senior clergyman and an outspoken critic of [...] marriage.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/cardinal-o-brien-cops-...

A senior Church of England clergyman is being investigated over allegations he is having an affair with a married mother-of-three.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269391/High-ranking...

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Other options
High-ranking clergyman, high-ranking member of the clergy, senior clergyman

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http://goo.gl/AUI8Wv
http://goo.gl/pwq6mb

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One of them is Pennsylvania, where the church hierarchy recently sponsored a day of fasting and prayer in response to what it called "an unprecedented and gross infringement" of religious liberty.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-18215371
The Catholic Church hierarchy failed to change with it and the organisation of the Church appeared dated.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/The-Catholic-Reformatio...
https://www.google.pl/#q="church hierarchy" site:uk
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mike23
Poland
Local time: 09:15
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4high official of the (Catholic) Church
Monika Wojewoda
3 +4hierarch
mike23
4 +1church officialdom
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
3Church elder
pidzej
3 -1leader
petermark (X)
3 -1(church) higher-up
geopiet
3 -1clergymen
Maciej Spiewak


Discussion entries: 17





  

Answers


36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
leader


Explanation:
If you are looking for something slightly more idiomatic than "hierarch" (although it's undoubtedly the correct term, it's not a word that's used much nowadays).

petermark (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:15
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  LilianNekipelov: No. The Pope is the leader.
3 hrs

neutral  Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz: Leaders and hierarchs are not exactly the same. And there's nothing wrong with 'hierarch' and no need to resort to loose translations just for the sake of diversity.
6 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
(church) higher-up


Explanation:
Bishop Buhain: ‘Church higher-ups denied me due process’ - http://www.rappler.com/nation/31802-bishop-teodoro-buhain-ch...

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Anderson said documents confirm Wehmeyer was given a 28-hour advance by church higher-ups that he would be arrested for the child-abuse - http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_25023133/church-still-nee...

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The Los Angeles Archdiocese says it will comply with a judge's ruling and release priest abuse files with names of church higher-ups included. - http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/01/07/35547/la-archdiocese-say...

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geopiet
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 10

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz: Nie o to chodzi i nie trzyma rejestru, jest zbyt potoczne.
4 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
high official of the (Catholic) Church


Explanation:
option

Monika Wojewoda
Poland
Local time: 09:15
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Swift Translation
33 mins
  -> Dziękuję :)

agree  LilianNekipelov: Or officials. Yes.
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Lilian :)

agree  Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Frank :) :) :)

agree  mike23
2 hrs
  -> Dziękuję :)

disagree  Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz: Nie ma potrzeby. Jest proste, bezpośrednie tłumaczenie „hierarch” i nie ma co udziwniać na siłę.
4 hrs
  -> Dziękuję za opinię. Jeżeli kontekst wyraźnie mówi o hierarchach w polskim kościele, to może być np. high officials of the Polish (Catholic) Church

agree  Polangmar
1 day 18 hrs
  -> Dziękuję, Polangmar :)
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
church officialdom


Explanation:
This is plural = kościelnych hierarchów = and COLLECTIVE, i.e. not ONE hierach, but all the hierachs.

The resulting lawsuit sent shock waves through church officialdom.

We are advised by the authors that on issues classified as ideological (excepting the UN) church officialdom takes a, strong position.

That is a major paradigm shift that is even more evident on the ground than in cloistered meetings of high church officialdom. I

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Local time: 03:15
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 47

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mike23: It's a good idea.
8 mins
  -> Thanks, Michał. This is sometimes used sarcastically, which may be of value here.

disagree  Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz: Nie o to chodzi.
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Łukasz. We will have to disagree :considering the plural form, the collective nature of the term, and the slightly wry nuance, "church officialdom" fits to a tee. See the provided examples and a million more on the Web.

agree  Monika Wojewoda: Idealnie pasuje do kontekstu.// You bet, Frank ;)
3 hrs
  -> You have a highly discriminating taste. Thank you, Monika.
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
hierarch


Explanation:
hierarch

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Note added at 33 mins (2014-06-02 07:29:08 GMT)
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in plural: hierarchy sounds better, e.g. the Hierarchy of the Church

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Note added at 44 mins (2014-06-02 07:40:05 GMT)
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Other options: High-ranking clergyman, high-ranking member of the clergy, senior clergyman, high priest (e.g. in Judaism)

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Note added at 59 mins (2014-06-02 07:55:06 GMT)
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Earlier today, Barack Obama offered the hierarchy “a compromise.” Under its terms, insurance companies offering healthcare coverage will be required to provide contraception and abortifacients...
http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/4551

O’Brien was the England’s senior clergyman and an outspoken critic of [...] marriage.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/cardinal-o-brien-cops-...

A senior Church of England clergyman is being investigated over allegations he is having an affair with a married mother-of-three.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269391/High-ranking...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-02 10:53:22 GMT)
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Other options
High-ranking clergyman, high-ranking member of the clergy, senior clergyman

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Note added at 4 hrs (2014-06-02 11:31:34 GMT)
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http://goo.gl/AUI8Wv
http://goo.gl/pwq6mb

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One of them is Pennsylvania, where the church hierarchy recently sponsored a day of fasting and prayer in response to what it called "an unprecedented and gross infringement" of religious liberty.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-18215371
The Catholic Church hierarchy failed to change with it and the organisation of the Church appeared dated.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/The-Catholic-Reformatio...
https://www.google.pl/#q="church hierarchy" site:uk

mike23
Poland
Local time: 09:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 14

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  LilianNekipelov: Not really.
4 hrs
  -> Lilian, I have four ideas here. Have a look here - http://goo.gl/pwq6mb or http://goo.gl/AUI8Wv

agree  Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.: Great options, Michał.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you. I hope one of these does the job well as one can see from the examples. I agree 'hierarch' sounds odd, but 'church hierarchy' is in use, in the UK at least

agree  Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz: Lilian, you're dead wrong. Of course it's 'hierarch' in the singular, and you just don't know Catholic ecclesiastical vocabulary.
6 hrs
  -> Dziękuję za rzeczowy komentarz. Pozdrawiam

agree  George BuLah (X): Łukasz mnie przekonał; mowa przecież o relacji w kościele katolickim, czego nawet nie trzeba artykułować, bo brzmienie kontekstu wyraźnie na to wskazuje; jeśli ktoś nie wie o co chodzi w tle przekazu, to niech się douczy
22 hrs
  -> Dzięki

agree  Polangmar
1 day 20 hrs
  -> Dziękuję
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
clergymen


Explanation:
Linki...


    Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/clergyman
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clergy
Maciej Spiewak
Poland
Local time: 09:15
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz: Nie! Clergymen to duchowni, a do duchownych należy np. diakon na praktykach duszpasterskich przed ukończeniem seminarium.
41 mins
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1861 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Church elder


Explanation:
My 2 eurocents, with 860K h to back it

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hits, not h

pidzej
Poland
Local time: 09:15
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
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