germes de l’hospitalisme

English translation: hospital germs

19:32 Apr 23, 2014
French to English translations [PRO]
Medical: Health Care
French term or phrase: germes de l’hospitalisme
From a report on microbilogical air cleanliness in the premises of an industrial caterer;

"La présence de germes de l’hospitalisme déclenche le niveau « action »."

Does this mean the kind of germs found in hospitals? Is there a better way to say it?
Jane F
France
Local time: 00:43
English translation:hospital germs
Explanation:
simply;

examples aplenty https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="hospital germs"

http://blog.chron.com/medblog/2011/12/paper-can-be-potent-ca...

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/jun/04/mrsa.nhs
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:43
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1hospital germs
Daryo
3 +2hospital-acquired infections
Elizabeth Tamblin
2 +3nosocomial pathogens (or germs)
Marco Solinas
4germs that can be found in hospitals / hospital environments
EirTranslations


Discussion entries: 4





  

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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
germs that can be found in hospitals / hospital environments


Explanation:
Yes, you are right, the following definitions are given:

Ce sont des germes de l'hospitalisme et sont responsables de surinfections diverses On les retrouve dans les pus de brûlures, les otites, les hémocultures.

The same term exists in Spanish "hospitalismo" and found it also in English:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitalism

http://www.banque-pdf.fr/fr_germes-de-l_hospitalisme.html

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Note added at 12 mins (2014-04-23 19:44:49 GMT)
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Please also see: Hospitalism

Definition of HOSPITALISM



1

a : the factors and influences that adversely affect the health of hospitalized persons b : the effect of such factors on mental or physical health


2

: the deleterious physical and mental effects on infants and children resulting from their living in institutions without the benefit of a home environment and parents

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/hospitalism

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Note added at 14 mins (2014-04-23 19:47:11 GMT)
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Also simply "hospital germs" also see

http://dictionaryofsydney.org/entry/hospitals

Avoiding 'hospitalism'

Before the 1860s, there was little incentive for even the sickest, poorest patient to be admitted to a hospital. For most of the nineteenth century, one of the strongest deterrents was the fear of 'hospitalism'. Hospitalism was the explanation for rampant infections within hospitals and was understood as toxic 'miasmas', vapours which seeped into the walls of hospitals and let off fumes which caused disease




EirTranslations
Ireland
Local time: 23:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: simply "hospital germs"
13 hrs
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
hospital-acquired infections


Explanation:
just a thought

Elizabeth Tamblin
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:43
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: I think "infections" is an appropriate translation for "germes". After all, they're presumably not interested in non-infectious organisms.
4 mins
  -> Cheers

neutral  EirTranslations: it doesn't say anything about infenctions though...just germs found in hospital environments
6 mins
  -> True, maybe I should have put "germs" instead of "infections"?

agree  Mario Freitas:
19 mins

neutral  B D Finch: This is probably before anyone gets infected: they are detecting germs in an air test.
3 hrs

disagree  Daryo: germs can cause infections, but germs are not the same as infections.
13 hrs

agree  Anca Florescu-Mitchell: Yes, the very resistant germs leading to these infections (supergerms!). http://www.universalis.fr/encyclopedie/nosocomiales-hospital...
17 hrs
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +3
nosocomial pathogens (or germs)


Explanation:
Low confidence because I am not sure whether they really mean germs found in hospitals or germs found in institutional settings in general.

Marco Solinas
Local time: 15:43
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: They mean germs commonly found in hospitals which can also be found elsewhere e.g. in places where food is prepared


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: I don't think there's any need to use a technical term that many people won't understand.
10 mins
  -> Thank you Phil. It looks to me as if it is a technical report.

agree  Anne Schulz
11 hrs

agree  Anca Florescu-Mitchell: http://www.universalis.fr/encyclopedie/nosocomiales-hospital...
17 hrs

agree  Bertrand Leduc
22 hrs
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
hospital germs


Explanation:
simply;

examples aplenty https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="hospital germs"

http://blog.chron.com/medblog/2011/12/paper-can-be-potent-ca...

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/jun/04/mrsa.nhs

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:43
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Victoria Britten: This was what I instinctively thought, but wasn't sure enough to post it.//Blinded by the science of "hospitalisme"!
37 mins
  -> nowadays it takes few seconds to check (not hours and hours or even days as 20-30 years ago) Thanks!
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