Great descend

English translation: Great = important people / descend = come down to be seen by the people

18:30 Apr 15, 2014
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
English term or phrase: Great descend
"He took an interest in social work...He was very active upon committees; he was very prominent and useful on all social occasions, in evidence upon platforms and upon all those semi-public occasions when the Great descend."

It is a quotation from Kipps, a novel published in 1905. There is nothing else about "the Great descend" in the novel. The present action of the novel locates after 1892.
Cansel22
Türkiye
Selected answer:Great = important people / descend = come down to be seen by the people
Explanation:
The meaning is obvious, but the explanation rather trickier!

'the Great' means important people, VIPs — these might be First Sea Lords, Royalty, the Viceroy of India... and so on, down of course to local dignitaries like the Mayor of the town. The key point is that these are people who (at least in their own eyes) need to be treated with special dignity and decorum (we have an expression in EN "the Great and the Good", which conjures up similar images of people who consider themselves important).

As for 'descend' it is an unusual word to choose, almost certainly a deliberate stylistic device to infer that these 'great' people have deigned to come down from their lofty places (and cf. '...descended from Heaven...') to allow themselves to be seen by the hoi-polloi, the ordianry folk. Cf. also the word 'condescend', the similarity with which would not I think go unnoticed.
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Tony M
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Local time: 18:57
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
5 +8Great = important people / descend = come down to be seen by the people
Tony M
3 +4when important people visit places below their station
B D Finch
4when VIPs visit (unexpectedly)
DLyons


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
great descend
when VIPs visit (unexpectedly)


Explanation:
The Great and Good is a common phrase.

DLyons
Ireland
Local time: 17:57
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: Why "unexpectedly"?
9 mins
  -> Because "descend" is stronger than just visit. It doesn't have to be unexpected but often is I feel.
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +8
when the Great descend
Great = important people / descend = come down to be seen by the people


Explanation:
The meaning is obvious, but the explanation rather trickier!

'the Great' means important people, VIPs — these might be First Sea Lords, Royalty, the Viceroy of India... and so on, down of course to local dignitaries like the Mayor of the town. The key point is that these are people who (at least in their own eyes) need to be treated with special dignity and decorum (we have an expression in EN "the Great and the Good", which conjures up similar images of people who consider themselves important).

As for 'descend' it is an unusual word to choose, almost certainly a deliberate stylistic device to infer that these 'great' people have deigned to come down from their lofty places (and cf. '...descended from Heaven...') to allow themselves to be seen by the hoi-polloi, the ordianry folk. Cf. also the word 'condescend', the similarity with which would not I think go unnoticed.

Tony M
France
Local time: 18:57
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 260
Grading comment
thank you

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  B D Finch
5 mins
  -> Thanks, B! :-)

agree  JaneTranslates: Spot on. Well explained, as usual.
10 mins
  -> Thanks a lot, Jane!

agree  DLyons
11 mins
  -> Thanks, D!

agree  acetran
16 mins
  -> Thanks, Harshsi!

agree  Yvonne Gallagher
56 mins
  -> Thanks, G!

agree  Piyush Ojha: Exactly!
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Piyush!

agree  Peter Simon
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Peter!

agree  Ildiko Santana
8 hrs
  -> Thanks, Ildiko!
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
great descend
when important people visit places below their station


Explanation:
The VIPS are descending in the sense of coming down from their elevated usual surroundings to places frequented by ordinary people.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 18:57
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 84

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M
3 mins
  -> Thanks Tony

agree  JaneTranslates
14 mins
  -> Thanks Jane

agree  Yvonne Gallagher
52 mins
  -> Thanks Gallagy

agree  Ildiko Santana
8 hrs
  -> Thanks Ildiko

neutral  Armorel Young: You can be "descended on" by people equal to you in status - the OED has "make an unexpected and usually unwelcome visit".
13 hrs
  -> That is another meaning of "descend", which does not fit the present context.
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