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Maigre de ligne

English translation: line caught drumfish or shadefish

17:25 Oct 6, 2013
French to English translations [PRO]
Cooking / Culinary / Belgian menu
French term or phrase: Maigre de ligne
Maigre de ligne à la plancha, ragout de supions aux olives, sur une soupe de roche émulsionné
NancyLynn
Canada
Local time: 03:09
English translation:line caught drumfish or shadefish
Explanation:
There are actually quite a few expressions for this kind of fish but because they are not very common to the UK or the USA there is no standard expression. One site lists "Shade-fish, Bubbler, Bar, Jew-fish, Croaker, Salmon-Basse, Stone Basse, Sea-sheep, Herring Hog (name given also to the Porpoise), Sergeant Fish, Drumfish (US), Aigle. Meagre"
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Howard Sugar
Italy
Local time: 09:09
Grading comment
Thanks to all!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2line caught stone basse
liz askew
3 +2line caught drumfish or shadefish
Howard Sugar
Summary of reference entries provided
meagre
liz cencetti (X)
Shadefish
B D Finch

  

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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
line caught stone basse


Explanation:
Maigre (poisson) - Wikipédia
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maigre_(poisson)‎Translate this page
Le maigre (Argyrosomus regius), ou grogneur, ou courbine, est un poisson marin de l'Atlantique et de la Méditerranée, de la famille des sciænidés. Sa taille
Argyrosomus regius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyrosomus_regius‎
Argyrosomus regius (also known as meagre, shade-fish, salmon-basse or stone basse) is a fish of the Sciaenidae family. It has a similar form to a European ...


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Note added at 15 mins (2013-10-06 17:41:41 GMT)
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Argyrosomus regius, also known as a Shade-fish, Salmon Basse ...
www.glaucus.org.uk/Drumfish.htm‎
Shade-fish, Bubbler, Bar, Jew-fish, Croaker, Salmon-Basse, Stone Basse, ... fish was caught at Abbotsbury on Chesil Beach, Dorset, on rod and line with a ...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Carol Gullidge: As per your Added Note at 15 mins, I've always translated this as "Croaker fish" for a couple of restaurants near Bordeaux, and this has never been queried. But don't forget to hyphenate "line-caught"!
1 hr
agree  Rachel Fell: aka "meagre"
4 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
line caught drumfish or shadefish


Explanation:
There are actually quite a few expressions for this kind of fish but because they are not very common to the UK or the USA there is no standard expression. One site lists "Shade-fish, Bubbler, Bar, Jew-fish, Croaker, Salmon-Basse, Stone Basse, Sea-sheep, Herring Hog (name given also to the Porpoise), Sergeant Fish, Drumfish (US), Aigle. Meagre"


    Reference: http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Drumfish.htm
Howard Sugar
Italy
Local time: 09:09
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks to all!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  B D Finch: Shadefish - preferred name from your own reference
11 hrs
agree  Verginia Ophof
21 hrs
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Reference comments


14 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: meagre

Reference information:
and obviously it's been line fished rather than by caught in nets in the hundreds.


    Reference: http://wrec.igfa.org/WRecordsList.aspx?lc=AllTackle&cn=Meagr...
liz cencetti (X)
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Rachel Fell: "meagre" in my fish book too - http://www.theodore-international.com/Seafood/France/Round_F... http://www.fao.org/docrep/013/i1675e/i1675e01.pdf
4 hrs
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15 hrs
Reference: Shadefish

Reference information:
"12 August 2010
A two metre long Shadefish (a Drumfish), Argyrosomus regius, was netted off Portland Bill, Dorset, and landed at Brixham, Devon. This migratory Mediterranean* fish is a rare capture in British seas with only two previous BMLSS records of complete fish in 1998 and 2008. The book name Meagre or Maigre was a transcription mistake in an old book and I have discontinued its vernacular use. The capture was of an adult fish weighing 25 kg. This large fish is identified by its yellow mouth. It preys on other fishes including Grey Mullet. (*It is also found off the Atlantic coast of Portugal.)"


    Reference: http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Torpedo2010Sept.htm
B D Finch
France
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 43
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