Contretype sur bromure d'argent

English translation: reproduction

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French term or phrase:	Contretype (sur bromure d'argent)
English translation:	reproduction
Entered by:	kashew

10:47 Aug 13, 2013

French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / artwork

French term or phrase: Contretype sur bromure d'argent

Hi

Just not sure about contretype here... description of a photgraphic artwork

TIA

Richardson Lisa KudoZ activity Questions: 56 (4 open) (1 without valid answers) Answers: 54 France
Local time: 12:54

reproduction

Explanation:
http://www.galerie-photo.com/tirages_definitions.html

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wet-plate reproduction

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http://www.galerie-photo.com/tirages_definitions.html

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kashew
France
Local time: 12:54

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4 +2

reproduction

kashew

4 +1

bromide print

david_rowe

photographic print/copy on silver bromide (paper)

Helen Shiner

duplicate / dupe

Tony M

Summary of reference entries provided

Contretype

Helen Shiner

Discussion entries: 8

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10 mins confidence:

contretype duplicate / dupe

Explanation:
cf GDT

Depends a bit on what the original was as to what form the 'contretype' is going to take.

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If you don't know that, then the EN term is no more nor less ambiguous than the FR one ;-)

Tony M
France
Local time: 12:54
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English
PRO pts in category: 88

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

reproduction

kashew
France
Local time: 12:54
Specializes in field
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English
PRO pts in category: 55

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agree

philgoddard: We don't have the full context, but it sounds like a catalogue or something, so this is a more appropriate term in my opinion.

21 mins

-> Thanks

agree

Tony M: This would be the correct technical term for one particular 'contretype' — but quite wrong for certain others; however, I think in this instance this is the most plausible explanation.

1 hr

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agree

Verginia Ophof

1 hr

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disagree

Helen Shiner: Sorry to disagree, but 'reproduction' has such a negative connotation in this context. It is much more likely to be a photo made from a negative taken of the original photo. Probably because original neg missing and photo in poor state. Or see my ref.

3 hrs

-> How can one say it's not a reproduction (or copy)?

1 day 1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

bromide print

Explanation:
This is the term used by the National Portrait Gallery.

Reference: http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw116786/J...

david_rowe
France
Local time: 12:54
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English

2 days 6 hrs confidence:

photographic print/copy on silver bromide (paper)

Explanation:
You do need to get across that this is a copy photograph of an original photograph produced via a negative and then exposed onto silver bromide paper. It is not just a photo made from a pre-existing original negative.

See my reference notes. See also

Lots of information here about different techniques using silver bromide papers through the years: http://onlineonly.christies.com/c/terms/14

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:54
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 348

Reference comments

1 hr peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: Contretype

Reference information:
dupe (duplicate) {E} * 1) To copy an item to another
generation, as to print a duplicate negative from a positive
print, 2) A copy made in this manner; see also
generation.(30.40.) {D= ?; Es= duplicado; F= contretype;
internégatif; copie; faire le double}.
dupe negative {E} * A copy negative made either from a
master positive print (often called a fine grain) or by
reversal printing from an original negative; employed for
making further positive copies.(06.) {D= Dup-Negativ; Es=
copia del negativo; contratipo; F= contretype négatif;
internégatif; contretype}.
dupe positive {E} * A positive copy obtained from the
original negatives on a film of very fine grain allowing a
very high dupe negative to be made; also known as
lavender, duping print.(64.) {D= Dup-Positiv; Lavendel;
Es= contratipo; copia del positivo; lavender; duplicado
positivo; F= contretype positif; positif de reproduction;
lavande}.
http://portal.unesco.org/ci/fr/file_download.php/68363c35677...

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I think if you have no further context, Lisa, that something like 'copy of photographic print on silver bromide' would be ok. Presumably a new negative has been made of the original photo and a print made of that - the latter being what is exhibited/discussed.

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Lisa, can you provide more context, please? Is this some process integral to an artist's work - i.e. taking photos of other (original) photos and incorporating them in their work? Or has this been done for conservation reasons, as in my note to kashew? Please clarify so we can help you properly.

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This might help you understand the process: silver bromide paper is light sensitive. Choosing it as a final medium rather than other potential papers gives you some indication of the process in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photographic_paper

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 348

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