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loddubb

English translation: benchmark

17:20 Jul 30, 2013
Swedish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / Civil Engineering
Swedish term or phrase: loddubb
Loddubbar ska monteras på samtliga brostöd.

In a tender specification for the building of a new bridge. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ian Bradburn
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:04
English translation:benchmark
Explanation:
This has been asked before - see http://www.proz.com/kudoz/swedish_to_english/construction_ci...
There is a good diagram which confirms this in the first reference and an illustration of one in the second.
"Plumb-bob" is better as a translation of "lod"

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Note added at 1 day22 hrs (2013-08-01 15:43:38 GMT)
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Safetex -
I have just received a message via Proz which details the problems you have with this answer. My search engine gives plenty of answers to "structure plumbline benchmarks". I regret I cannot help further, let's see how Ian Bradburn resolves this.
Michael
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Michael Ellis
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:04
Grading comment
Thanks Michael :)
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5benchmark
Michael Ellis
2 -1Plumb-bob
SafeTex
Summary of reference entries provided
Some kind of pin, dowel, or similar
Deane Goltermann

Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Plumb-bob


Explanation:
But they are not for fishing from the bridge of course but for getting vertical guide lines from which to work.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumb-bob#
SafeTex
France
Local time: 06:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 70

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Deane Goltermann: This is close but not correct as defined in my reference.
23 hrs
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
benchmark


Explanation:
This has been asked before - see http://www.proz.com/kudoz/swedish_to_english/construction_ci...
There is a good diagram which confirms this in the first reference and an illustration of one in the second.
"Plumb-bob" is better as a translation of "lod"

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Note added at 1 day22 hrs (2013-08-01 15:43:38 GMT)
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Safetex -
I have just received a message via Proz which details the problems you have with this answer. My search engine gives plenty of answers to "structure plumbline benchmarks". I regret I cannot help further, let's see how Ian Bradburn resolves this.
Michael


    Reference: http://publications.usace.army.mil/publications/eng-manuals/...
    Reference: http://www.haucon.se/index.php/armeringsdetaljer/skyddsknopp...
Michael Ellis
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 112
Grading comment
Thanks Michael :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  asptech
6 hrs
neutral  SafeTex: The drawings show us what it is and then is a step forward but the answer given last time (benchmarks) has no references. I just don't see how it got accepted last time. Has anyone got a reference for this please?
11 hrs
  -> The first reference is enough for me, but If you want more, I suggest you put 'stucture plumbline benchmarks 'in your search engine. Do let us know what you find.
disagree  Deane Goltermann: I'm going to have to disagree here Michael, as 'benchmark' does not fit with the definition of 'lodddubb' that I have found in Swedish (at https://batman.vv.se/batInfo/handbok31/15Stod.htm, among others). See my reference!
21 hrs
  -> Deane my reading of definition is 'to check if deformations have occurred' and the meagre diagram appears to show two benchmarks vertically disposed to check wiith a plumb-line.
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Reference comments


1 day 14 hrs
Reference: Some kind of pin, dowel, or similar

Reference information:
This is a set of pins placed in the construction to facilitate determining it is vertical. I'd say these are used with a plumb bob as they are groved in the end for guiding the plump wire. But frustratingly, I haven't been able to 'pin' down a satisfactory term in Eng!

Here is a reference to the Swe definition, which also shows clearly what your 'thingymagig' is, what it does, and how it is used in a bridge construction --https://batman.vv.se/batInfo/handbok31/15Stod.htm.

And I suppose you've found these pictures at http://www.glh.se/groups.aspx?arID=4&gID=191 or http://www.haucon.se/index.php/armeringsdetaljer/skyddsknopp... and at http://www.haucon.se/index.php/armeringsdetaljer/skyddsknopp...

As to benchmark, this reference http://www.d2b-bygg.se/proinfo/dubbar.pdf, that clearly identifies 'brodubb' as related to establishing the benchmark (fixpunkt).

Hope this helps, if you're still on this!

Deane Goltermann
Sweden
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SwedishSwedish
PRO pts in category: 513
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